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Another one from the Goldberg lot. Two rulers for the price of one   Rhoemetalkes I, client king of Thrace11 BC - 12 AD AE19 Obv: BASILEWS ROIMHTALKOY, diademed head of Rhoemetalkes right Rev: KAISAROS SEBASTOY, bare head of Augustus right Ref: BMC 7-9? Not in super shape but not too bad. Edited by ThisIsFun
10/15/2013 2:10 pm
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From wikipedia: Quote:
Rhoemetalces I (Ancient Greek: Ῥοιμητάλκης) was king of the Odrysian kingdom of Thrace from 12 BC to 12 AD, in succession to his nephew Rhescuporis I.[1]
Rhoemetalces I was a loyal ally to the first Roman Emperor Augustus. He was a direct descendant of the Thracian King Cotys I, and the middle son of the earlier Thracian king Cotys VI. His older brother was Cotys VII, and his younger brother was Rhescuporis II.
When Cotys VII died about 48 BC Rhoemetalces became the guardian of his nephew Rhescuporis I, his brother's young son and heir. Rhescuporis I died in 13 BC, when he was defeated and slain in battle by Vologases, chief of the Thracian Bessi, who was a leader in the revolt against the Romans in that year.
During this revolt Rhoemetalces and his family fled Thrace, returning only when it ended, when Augustus returned the kingdom to his family. As Rhescuporis I had left no heir, Rhoemetalces became King of Thrace in 12 BC. The Roman Historian Tacitus, describes him as ‘attractive and civilized'. His wife and the mother of his heir, known only through numismatic evidence, was Queen Pythodoris [I].
Rhoemetalces I ruled Thrace until his death in 12. Augustus then divided his realm into two separate kingdoms, one half for his son Cotys VIII to rule and the other half for Rhoemetalces's remaining brother Rhescuporis II. Tacitus states that Cotys received the cultivated parts, most towns and most Greek cities of Thrace, while Rhescuporis received the wild and savage portion with enemies on its frontier.[2] |
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TIF not been posting but been watching, they are breathtaking. You must be thrilled with this lot.
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I am indeed. It's been so much fun. I'm keeping an eye out for another mixed lot. Surprises can be fun.
I started with uncleaned lots earlier this year but that wasn't much fun since most of them cleaned up only enough to be marginally identifiable, and I'm not particular fond of late Roman coins. The few uncleaned Greeks I bought were mostly flat and featureless. No fun at all. Nothing to clean, just blank slugs.
So this is sort of the same thrill of 'discovery'-- buying a group of coins without seeing them first, finding or fleshing out the attributions. I figured it would be a decent lot given the seller's usual offerings.
I assume that such group lots are generally composed of coins the auction house deems not worth selling individually, but from a seller such as Goldberg they would probably still be better than a some other auction houses' 'firsts'.
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I will bear that in mind for the future. For the amount I have spent over the past few months I could have probably picked up a similar lot easily.
My coins number well over a hundred (since June) but a lot are worthless junk. However, it has satisfied an urge! I need to decide on a direction, but your coins are making it very hard to choose!
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dang, another cool one...and a guy I didn't know...thanks for info. what I would call "rugged but attractive".
i haven't purchased uncleaned coins for a while, I kind of miss cleaning them...but I'm not buying any more mass bulks of lrb coins.
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Hi TIF, Some great coins you got there. Would it be cheaper for someone like me to buy them separately?
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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MetDet-- I'm trying to estimate realistic values for each coin and so far, it looks like if purchased individually, the total would be more than twice what I paid. And I haven't filled in the values for 1/3 of the coins yet. Granted, I've started the spreadsheet with what are likely the most valuable coins so I don't expect that number to grow proportionately for the last entries.
It was a good deal for me since I don't have a large number of coins and was happy to have a wide variety. An insta-collection. I will sell/trade/give away some of them though. Still a reasonable deal.
If you are seeking very specific coins and conditions, you're better off buying individual coins.
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Well I am still after a nice gold piece, still not bit the bullet on that yet, but after seeing some of the coins that you and the others here have posted I may very well go for something different. The problem I have, and I suspect many others have as well, is that I want to collect them all!! The coin you have posted in this thread is miles ahead of anything I have and I am thinking that should be the direction I should go. I have literally thousands of the smaller later Roman coins and am still sorting through them and taking out what I want to keep, basically just picking out anything I like the look of or looks a bit different and putting the rest on ebay to make room for some earlier, larger coins. Thanks for always putting a good description under the stuff you post, helps me out no end!!  You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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