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Most Valuable Lincoln Cent - Does It Even Exist?

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According to the information at numismedia.com, the most valuable Lincoln Cent is (or would be) the 1922 (Plain) in MS65, with a value of $123,500.

I'm just wondering whether such a coin actually exists and, if so, how?

Aside from the controversy as to whether this is even a real variety in the first place, the distinguishing characteristic of this coin is supposed to be the result of a worn obverse die that was reworked by a mint employee who erased all traces of the D mintmark while repairing and polishing the die. I can imagine how such a coin could have been preserved in a reddish state after all this time, but how could it ever be graded as MS65 without having the crisp details that wouldn't be evident with a worn die?

Has anybody actually seen pictures of the coin in question? I'm assuming there must be at least one known example in order for it to appear in the price guide (they don't, for example, list one in MS66 or above).
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PCGS and NGC have graded examples. Here is a BN one http://www.davidlawrence.com/invent.../Small-Cents The die state should have little or no effect on the technical grade.
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Amazing, thank you! I still have trouble accepting that as an MS65 given it's apparent condition, but I guess if that's the way it left the mint it is, by definition, "mint state"...
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And for the rest of us there is the:

1909 VDB Proof ; 1909s VDB or the 1909 VDB DDO

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1955 DDO, 1969s DDO
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1943 copper or 1944 steel.
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1955 DDO, 1969s DDO



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1943 copper or 1944 steel.



Nope......1974 Aluminum...
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i have been collecting only cents for 30 years now I have every cent in at least ms60 or better except for the 1972 DDO #4 I have found one in my life in vf condition so ill have to go with that one hard to find; hard to buy; good luck they just dont come up for sale.
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Dang reupman! Got some pics of your collection? I'd love to see some MS early wheats in an album!
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I thought this thread was about the 1910 VDB rumored to exist.
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How about this invention:
A 1909 S VDB on a dime blank.
Theoretically, it IS possible.
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The David Lawrence coin linked above sold at Heritage last April for $82,250. PCGS has 3, 2 in 65RB and that one in 65BN; they might be the same coin.

So far, not counting off-planchet Wartime Cents, Heritage has sold two Business Strike Lincolns for over $125,000 - a 65RD 1926-S in 2006 and a 64RD 1969-S DDO in 2008. Both hammered at $126,500. The 1926-S was reholdered to a different provenance (now Jack Lee, formerly Joshua and Ally Walsh, but with the same serial number) and resold for $106,375 in 2008.
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The 1958 DDO #1 has also sold for more than that.


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I can imagine how such a coin could have been preserved in a reddish state after all this time, but how could it ever be graded as MS65 without having the crisp details that wouldn't be evident with a worn die?

The reverse die was new and sharp. Typically the 1922 plain rev 2 is graded by the rev not the obverse. So on a MS-65 the reverse will be sharp, crisp, with all the fine details and a minimum of marks.
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This is kind of a trick question. Nothing has an inherent "value" in an auction. All that matters is how much two people want it and are able to pay.

I could Dremel my name into a penny and it is now one of a kind. What is it worth? Only what at least two people are willing and able to pay for it.
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Most-Valuable-Lincoln-Cent---Does-It-Even-Exist?
Mine might not be the biggy mentioned but still pretty nice. Some day I'll have it gradedd for fun.
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I'll take the 1914D MS66RD
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