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Is There A Way To Get An Exact Date?

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I have two Qing Dynasty coins and since the Qing Dynasty lasted for 268 years do the coins just have markings that just say they are from Qing Dynasty or do they have actual dates on them?

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 Posted 10/27/2013  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most (all?) of the cash coins do not have specific dates on them. Some of them can be narrowed down to a specific year (or range of years) by look at David Hatill's book: http://www.amazon.com/Cast-Chinese-.../1412054664. Let me warn you that if you are not a patient person looking at hanging boo's, extended legs, running scripts and oval dots will probably drive you crazy.
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Thanks, I think I'll just leave them as they are and spare the headache
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For me, a comprehensive hand drawn picture book, such as Frederik Schjoth's book 'Chinese Currency' is essential for identification. You can build your picture-graphic ID matching skills with the use of this book.

You can identify the Dynasty, the Emperor and the reign title, but not the exact date. The reign title can be associated to a period that may cover a few years within a reign.

For the Ta Ching (Quing = Ching) Dynasty, (Manchu Rulers 1644 through 1909), you can also quite often identify the mint.

Decades ago, I was buying Chinese cash coins for 10 to 20 cents each. At that price, I didn't know or care very much if they were fake or not. I have about 200 of them, from most Dynasties and Emperors, covering the last 2,000+ years. After using the book to fully identify all of them, it seems to me that almost all of them are genuine.

There are a tiny number of cash coins that are made from zinc or iron, but very few of them have survived, and they are quite scarce.

My copy of Schjoth was donated by the Portland Oregon Coin Club to the City Library. It wasn't borrowed. It was sold as part of a job lot and found it's way to London. I bought it from an Australian coin dealer who had links with Spink's Books of London. Price? The princely sum of $14.
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You can identify them to specific emperors within the dynasty easily enough - This page is good enough to ID the emperor and mint of each coin.
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Thanks for that, 1 is emperor Kao Tsung "Ch'ien-Lung" it says 1736-1795, but judging by the pictures the one I can definitely tell is the "Boo Yuwan" but what does the "S-1466" mean?

And the other one I have seems to be a very close match to the "Boo Ciowan" one listed above it
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"S-1466" is the catalogue refernce number in the Schjoth catalogue, the book Sel mentioned.
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For me, a comprehensive hand drawn picture book, such as Frederik Schjoth's book 'Chinese Currency' is essential for identification. You can build your picture-graphic ID matching skills with the use of this book.

Hartil is now the standard reference. It uses the same type of hand drawn pictures like Schjoth does but is more comprehensive. Everything, or just about everything in Schjoth is in Hartil, plus a lot more. If you like Schjoth, you'll like Hartil.
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