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I recently acquired another 5000 count bag. This one is a 1959-D LMC bag. My question is, how abundant are the RPM's in this year? Coppercoins has a great listing, but I wonder how many of these are simply mild varieties of the same type of RPM. Coppercoins also lacks the ability to put a scarce or rare tag on some of its listings, which I think is important, and it would help out the young collectors as well. Since this bag is 54 years old, I never expect to get a coin over MS-63. Time will tell how well the bag was stored and handled. Which 1959-D RPM's have you found ? Edited by Collector-Corner 10/30/2013 11:10 am
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Just curious how much did an MS bag of 59's set you back?
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I don't reveal how much I paid or where I get bags from. Its a business practice, and its one I follow.
This is the sixth bag in about 45 days that my son and I have worked on. Its an interesting job, sorting through bags, and some can be quite rewarding. So far its been a 1969-P, 1979-D, 1962-P, and two 1972-P bags, and now this 1959-D.
Edited by Collector-Corner 10/30/2013 11:15 am
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I totally understand. I am sorry. That is impressive! Six bags of early dates!
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Looks like my eyes might fall out before the bag gets completed. There may be more suspects in the bag than normal coins !
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Usually in a bag/roll of cents there may be from 4-19 different dies that were used at that time. (The older years may have less than the current die process.) So I would think after identifying the markers for your coins, you might find about 8-10 different dies that ran you batch of coins. So if you find a nice one and the rest are duds (normal) ones, then look for the markers for the ones you want. If there is nothing in the first 10% of the bag, it is probably the way the rest of the bag will go. So don't think your going to find all the RPMs in one bag. You will get a percentage of the dies that were used to run the lot of coins that you have in the bag.
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Yep, understood. I don't let out many secrets, but I have noticed alot of that in bags. I have gone through A LOT of pennies over the last 35 years and most have been in quantity. You get to notice patterns and some I was lucky enough to reconstruct the last 12 or so coins as a die was going bad, it was pretty impressive to find all of those coins in a bag. Overall, I would say I have gone through 45 or so bags in my life, and I am sure there will be plenty more to do as well. The only bag that was "different" was the 1962 bag. It wasn't until near the bottom when I found that severely gouged 1962 with a triple 6 on it and those two potential 1962 DDO's. ost of the other bags, especially the 1972's were true-to-course when it came down to finding the diferent die varieties, especially in reference to the DDO's.
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Edited by Kloccwork419 11/02/2013 10:00 am
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I've got one of those in Library. I used it to identify my 1959D-1MM-010. The location was an exact match, but the shape of the RPM was different from other know examples. But a marker about the ear helped me to ID this as an EDS and was stronger than most RPM images show. So it is help full.
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I have one signed to me from Wexler that I never even looked at. I bought it not realizing it was 1959 ONLY..lol. Still a great book if I ever end up using it.
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Well the first pass of the 1959-D bag is done. I have in my possession very close to 380 yep, 380 type #39 RPM's. I think I may have had only 6 or so different die types in that bag, That was cool to find so many with the top Serif Split. I think within those 380, there may be 10% that may have a top and bottom Serif split, and I will eventually check those. I also have 25 #5 Rpms as well. I'll probably do a 2nd pass on the bag next week, and pull out any other die varieties, that aren't very obvious. I never expected this many, but all of them are a welcome addition. here is a link to what my #39 RPM's finds look like; https://goccf.com/t/161577
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Gary maybe you will get lucky and find the second '59 wheat mule. But, how about if you hit a lottery style win, by the whole bag being wheat mules. Edward M.
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Not as bad as 60D's, but if you like to ID rpm's from over 60 choices have fun  . Oh remember the reverse there's a DDR 
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@jungliston1; We haven't started looking at the reverse of the 1959-D bag. Should we find such an oddity, I'll let you know.
@albertharris; We have a 1960-D bag and it has produced alot more RPM's than the 1959-D bag. If I cannot ID them, I'll send them into Wexler or other service to get them ID'ed. No big deal. The 1960-D bag has a ton of easy to recognize RPM's. We're slowly but surely doing a 2nd pass on the Obverse to see if we missed any. I don't have the exact numbers in hand, but;
The 1959-D produced over; (350) RPM-0039 (100) Die cracks across the entire head of Lincoln (200) Die cracks in a sideways pear shape near ear of Lincoln
The 1960-D Bag is a work in progress. It's chuck full of RPM's. We have 4-5 varieties, and avaerage at Least 10 rolls of each. Crazy.
I Think combined, RPM wise, we're over 2200 for the 1959-D and 1960-D bags, combined.
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