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EFLargeCents Pillar of the Community United States 1304 Posts	Posted 10/31/2013 2:04 pm I am looking for some input regarding the omission (or failure) of the proper major variety type on the slab. The C-5 variety is considered a major variety and would not have required an extra fee according to NGC's guidelines. I guess they just missed it. Is it worth sending to PCGS (I'm putting together a group to submit to them) to cross at the same grade or better and have them put the correct attribution on it? I know I'm probably just paying for the words on the slab if I do this since someone like myself will market the coin as such if I went to sell it, but I think there is also a slight chance it could grade higher as well, even with the scratch. I have 6 others slabbed of this type for comparison and this is a little nicer than a PCGS 1828 XF40. Another consideration is that the coining method in 1809 was much different than what was done in 1828, which lends me to believe that the relative condition of the 1809 is all that much greater. I think its worth a shot at a higher grade as this variety is somewhat more popular than the series in general. Thoughts? On a side note, I've noticed a lack of consistency in grading these from both PCGS and NGC. I have an AU50 that looks AU58 and an AU53 that looks XF45. Edited by EFLargeCents 10/31/2013 2:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 10/31/2013 2:59 pm Having formalized their attribution services (read: having found they can charge money for it), you can assume that "free" attribution - even for the most common varieties - is likely a thing of the past for TPG's. One would think that a TPG would automatically factor striking processes and the poorer early planchets into their grading flow; one would likely be disappointed quite often as a result. Especially with regard to early Copper, I wouldn't be too very concerned with grade and variety on the slab. Copper specialists tend to be well-read and informed, and they're quite up to forming an accurate grade opinion and attribution as long as your images are up to the task. There's a reason I (sort of jokingly) often grade early Copper as "PCGS AU50/EAC VG08." Report this Post to the Staff
kanga Pillar of the Community United States 5825 Posts	Posted 10/31/2013 3:53 pm Same problem. I bought a slabbed 1809 Half Cent, variety C-4. Whoever had it slabbed didn't pay the fee for NGC Variety Plus. So I sent it in and paid to have the label updated. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 11/01/2013 10:35 pm Quote: Another consideration is that the coining method in 1809 was much different than what was done in 1828, Coining method was the same in both years, screw press with an open collar. There may have been a difference in the source of the copper planchets. Quote: Having formalized their attribution services (read: having found they can charge money for it), you can assume that "free" attribution - even for the most common varieties - is likely a thing of the past for TPG's. Which might not be too bad if they could get the attributions right a higher percentage of the time, and if they guaranteed the attribution. Report this Post to the Staff
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