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1948 Canada 50 Cents-Grade & Authenticity Ck

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 Posted 11/03/2013  04:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

At a yard sale yesterday I found this Canadian 50 cents piece in a round candy tin box.

This coin was among a bunch of foreign(non-US)coins that filled up the tin box about 1/2" in depth of mostly unknown coins.

This coin weighs 11.62 grams.

I paid $ 5 for the whole tin box full of coins. I offered to pay $ 5 for the whole tin box of coins; the seller accepted my offer but neither the seller nor I knew what was in the tin box of coins before now...

Please address the following points:

1) grade of coin

2) authenticity of coin

3) approx. rarity and resale $ value of the coin in its current state

4) if carefully cleaning this coin to remove the black grime would significantly increase its $ value.

5) what mixture of chemical(s) would effectively remove the black stuff without destroying the patina of the coin?

Thanks,
mdpmedia



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 Posted 11/03/2013  06:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lucky you!... you picked up a key date Canada fifty cents, the same as my AVATAR...

Don't clean it, it's about VG/Fine, looks like a narrow date, worth about $125.00 or so.
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 Posted 11/03/2013  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the black stuff may be from a felt tipped pen. Most of it has been rubbed off, but some remains.
Try acetone.
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 Posted 11/03/2013  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1) Might just make F-12.
2) Looks good to me!
3.1) Mintage 37 784.
3.2) On The Universal Rarity Scale, (URS-0-URS-20) it would be URS-17. 32 001 to 65 000 minted (or known to exist).
3.3) VG-10= around $130.00, F-12= around $140.00.
4) Don't know...
5) Most people suggest acetone.
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 Posted 11/03/2013  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VG-10. Use coinsandcanada.com for coin values. Very low mintage date and therefore valuable. Use acetone to clean off the gunk and that should increase the value and resaleabillity.
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 Posted 11/03/2013  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add torgemco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HI mdp if you decide too clean this coin
would you mind showing us how it makes out
after cleaning ? something seems odd around the eye
for my untrained eye
very nice find
regards
dermot
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 Posted 11/04/2013  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,


Quote:
would you mind showing us how it makes out
after cleaning ? something seems odd around the eye


It always amazes me how my small USB camera can drill down to provide such great detail at higher magnifications such as this eye region: all for an investment of about $ 30 or so.

Incidentally, I initially used a porcupine quill together with a cotton swab saturated with a 100% pure acetone product called ONYX Professional in a first attempt to loosen the black grunge.

I then followed it up with a soaking solution of liquid hand detergent & water.

Even though the preceding couple of procedures should have adequately addressed both the polar and non-polar chemical components of this annoying residue, apparently this black junk had already bonded chemically to the patina/surface in some areas where the black residue remained as a lighter shade compared to the original darker color.

Finally, I understand that a porcupine quill falls into the same class as a rose's thorn insofar as not being able to scratch the surface. The scratches seen here under higher magnification must have already been present before my cleaning procedures described above began.

This acetone product is not supposed to leave any residue.

I think it could still squeak out the lower end of a F-12 grade; opposing or agreeing opinions are welcomed on the grade obtained after cleaning.

fyi

mdpmedia



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 Posted 11/05/2013  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add torgemco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hi again mdp I think it looks a bit better
and thanks for the reply
I have a similar coin very badly disfigured looking for ways too clean it up.
do you have any idea what was on the coin ? paint/or magicmarker
acetone was mentioned in an earlier thread for cleaning
but i`m hesitant
nice candy tin find
regards
dermot
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 Posted 12/23/2013  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add torgemco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hi would anyone know if a mild solution of baking soda
helps cleaning coins or should it not be used at all
thanks
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use acetone NOT baking soda it will ruin it!
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 Posted 12/23/2013  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add torgemco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks again p/c

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