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Yun-Nan Silver Dollar 1909-1911

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 Posted 11/03/2013  10:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add damynke to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello-

I'd like opinions on this silver dollar;

Size 39.7mm (+/- .2)
Weight 26.72 grams

Good or not?



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 Posted 11/04/2013  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something with this coin doesn't strike me as real, there are element missing. The hyphen between Yun-Nan, the serif lettering doesn't show the thickness where it supposed to appear. The reverse of the coin with the Chinese lettering is missing few denticle above Yun.

Hope gxseries and other pros can look at your posts.
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 Posted 11/04/2013  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add damynke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try these pics instead - the denticle are hidden in the tarnish - they are actually all there, as is the hyphon. Can't speak to the serif lettering - I looked at so many examples - some thicker, some thinner. My big concern was the odd line on the front that bisects the S.

It is silver, the weight and size are on.

Thanks for the help - do the new pics help any>

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 Posted 11/04/2013  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. It does help, the V in Province is pointed, which I think should be flat, and the flame above the pearl under the dragon mouth is much thicker than it should be.

The weight is close to actual silver, but its been known that the forger is getting better, did this coin stick to magnet?
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 Posted 11/04/2013  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am just wondering how much die variation there is with the genuine examples. I do believe that there is some die variation amongst them.
For me, I just haven't seen enough of them to pass a definitive judgment.
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 Posted 11/04/2013  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope this coin is real also, in uncirculated the cost is near thousand, this if authentic is at least AU grade. Looks cleaned though.
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 Posted 11/04/2013  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks ok to me but I am not well versed in this type of coinage.

Best forum is to take it to Chinese coin forum where the Chinese coin experts are:

http://china-mint.info/forum/
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 Posted 11/04/2013  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add damynke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone. It does appear to be lightly cleaned. The light really helps pick up the swirl marks. How much does the cleaning hurt this coin if authentic?

I wish the images were better, I will try to take better images with more ambient light and post this evening.

It is not magnetic, and passed the ICE test. So I am hopeful that it is authentic.
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11/04/2013 6:35 pm
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 Posted 11/04/2013  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add damynke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These images are much better.

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 Posted 11/05/2013  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mine is a poorer grade, 26.60 grams, 39.2mm exactly by calliper. I can't find anything wrong with your coin except the diameter is slightly greater of yours. This may be accounted by your UNC grade. I vote it is genuine. Damynke, can you show some edge pictures of your coin for comparison. I would show you later.
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 Posted 11/05/2013  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add damynke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure-

I will post some images of the edge this evening.

Thanks,
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 Posted 11/09/2013  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
damynke, I think your coin is ok and yours is a higher grade. I show my coin here for your comparison. Weight 26.60 grams, 39.2mm
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