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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Not really a coin. Not to be.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
11922 Posts |
I don't think this would classify as a coin... unless it's spendable. I would consider this more of a decorative numismatic artifact 
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 Australia
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The answer to your question entirely depends on your definition of "coin".
If you accept "Coin" to be: "an object issued by a government and allocated a legal tender value in the currency of that government", then yes - it is a coin. So are the pyramid-coins of the Isle of Man, the geometric-solid-shaped coins of... I can't remember which country, and the acrylic coins of Congo.
If you change the definition to coins needing to be more or less round and more or less flat, or needing to be in a form that could be conveniently circulated as money if people chose to do so then no, this doesn't fit.
Is Niue a legitimate, coin-issuing government? The answer to that question seems to be "yes". Niue is a dependency of New Zealand, but New Zealand grants its three dependencies (the others being Cook Islands and Tokelau) considerable autonomy, including the right to issue their own coinages.
Of course, one thing that ought to be further investigated is whether or not the government of Niue actually authorized the issue of these particular coins. Rogue foreign mints have in the past issued "coins" which were never authorized by the government named on them, so therefore were never truly "coins". For this purpose they usually choose small, isolated, hard-to-verify countries (like Nauru and Niue) or countries in the middle of a civil war or otherwise with no functional recognized government (like Somalia).
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Canada
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The geometric-shape tokens were denominated in Somali dollars - a bit of a tip-off, because the country's currency is the shilling.
There is a new federal government, though, so I wonder if they'll start bringing on the lawsuits that are so richly deserved...
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, I tend to draw the line at NCLT where the LT part is in somebody else's LT...
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United States
416 Posts |
It's a 6oz chunk of metal...coin no
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1186 Posts |
I'd love to see someone carrying a few of these in their pocket.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote: I'd love to see someone carrying a few of these in their pocket. Why? Nobody carries NCLT in their pocket as a habit  Here is an older thread with some really nice pictures: https://goccf.com/t/150160
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
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It's funny that they apparently copied the picture from the Mercury dime, which isn't even an actual rendition of Mercury.  (EDIT: looking carefully, they didn't - their version doesn't have the Phrygian cap, and, while it might be just my imagination, the face looks a little bit male-r. But I still somewhat doubt that this is actually enough of a difference to justify that the image on this coin is, in fact, "Mercury" rather than a misnamed and misplaced Liberty.)
Edited by january1may 11/14/2013 12:48 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 that is weird why would they do that?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
9792 Posts |
Only different in shape - it isn't unlike the YAP coins made from tons of stone. I like it beautiful I would use it as a paperweight on my desk, and as a conversation piece. Very cool!
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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My definition of "coin" requires it to be intended to circulate as money. This piece was never intended to circulate so to me it is not a coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
548 Posts |
To qualify as a coin it must be technically legal tender, so bullion can qualify, even though it's not meant to circulate as money. Additionally, I would argue that what allows us to identify a coin as a coin is generally its size, shape and material. Strictly in terms of appearance, the "ideal" coin is a small metal disc. A metal cylinder does not qualify as a coin in my view. It's simply too far removed from what I consider to be the "ideal" shape. There you go. I can out-think and out-philosophise the lot of you. 
Edited by Demarco Bishopp 11/15/2013 2:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Interesting answers. I think we're going to the extreme every new release. Check it out this one: http://firstcoincompany.com/S/solom...medium=emailSolomon Islands Nefertiti 3D Sculptures of Art Egypt Queen 3 oz $25 Silver coin 2013 The first coin in a brand new Series of "Sculptures of Art" âœ" World Premiere - the first coin in a new Series of "Sculptures of Art" âœ" Sensation - the first 3D sculpture coin in the world! âœ" Only 1000 Pieces Worldwide! I think the problem is that the Mints are taking advantage of his power and as they give their items face value and legal tender status, so they could produce even a car (with a face value of course) and call it a coin! 
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