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 I'm not convinced. It looks like it was drug under a tire in a parking lot. If the expert couldn't give even a hint as to how this could have happened, I say my guess is as good as his. Edited by rpmes
11/16/2013 10:50 pm
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Its likely a tapered planchet from the end of a strip.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like that area folded over the rim and now it's silver in the reeded area over the copper.
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Thank you FadeToBlack, for the lively post and the very cool Ike. If you have looked at 50,000 of these Bad-Boys then I am more than willing to concur with your assessment. Please do not allow our strong personalities and differing opinions keep you from posting these unusual errors in the future. These people are smart and, even though like you said "It's likely a tapered planchet from the end of a strip", they have provided reasonable and educated guesses. The fact that this forum is filled with so many experts who are willing to ask questions and provide alternative solutions is one of the things that makes this place great. Thanks again, this has been very educational!  |
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Fade....this is a forum where people are free to give their opinions about what is posted and I appreciate you posting what you feel is an interesting find, but I must say my friend....$50,000 in ikes does not an expert make. I would consider myself a novice and I have handled well over $50,000 in Ikes and currently own about $10,000 worth. I posted in the error forum a proof ASE that I thought was a clash die, and I encourage people to give me their opinion, my ego is not so fragile that I cannot appreciate a differing opinion. I have been on this forum for a couple years now and all the regulars here have nothing but honorable intentions. Why you felt the need to lash out is beyond me, but please refrain in the future. |
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I apologize for losing my cool. When I know something is an error and I am continuously told it's not an error, I get irritated. I wasn't posting here with intentions to start a discussion on if it was an error or damage, but merely to point out that what initially looks like damage may actually be an error. As for my rant about handling Eisenhowers, I meant that I have actually handled, looked at, and evaluated at least 50,000 Eisenhower dollars. Not $50k worth of Eisenhowers. While I was likely incorrect in asserting that I've handled more Eisenhowers than anybody else here, I'm pretty sure that I go through more than just about anybody else save for a few other individuals, on a regular basis. I own numerous Ike errors, from curved clips, to straight clips, planchet flaws, a minor clamshell planchet, strike throughs, etc. I thought this coin was interesting because it's the single most notable planchet flaw I've found yet, save for clips. I also own over 2 dozen FEV's, and over 100 '72 T2's. Edited by FadeToBlack
11/17/2013 04:31 am
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It's an error - no question, IMO. Quote:
From Joe Sullivan (Error dealer) on another forum;
"The rim and part of the field was scraped away prior to strike. What caused it to be scraped away I don't know, and I don't think you could ever find out. It's worth about $40 I would say." It's Jon Sullivan, and I agree. It's some form of damage and there really isn't an easy way to classify it down any further. It is not an example of a coin struck from a planchet cut from the end of the strip; this is a completely different error. |
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It looks damaged to me. The striations look like they were made after the coin was struck.
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There really are some guys on here that just like to get under anyones skin that has an unusual error coin. This first thing I thought when I looked at the pictures is yep thats a cool error. Maybe struck through a piece of cloth or something.
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11/17/2013 05:55 am
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I see an error. The photos show the lines under the 1776 and could only be there if they were there before the strike. The 2nd 7 also looks to have the center open with the edges higher and folding in toward the center from the metal flow. I have no idea of what caused the damage to the planchet, but I would never see this as PMD because the lines are under the date. It's my post and It's only my 2c worth, and that's about as much as any of my opinions should be valued at, but I'm sure that this is a very nice Ike error and all the better that it's not something I've seen before. I've never seen an error like this on any coin, but I've said that lots of times before as I learned what happens during the minting process over the years. Congrats on the find and if you ever nail down what could have caused the planchet damage, let us know. Ben ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Notice on the rim above the B & E on the obverse, The rim is slightly flattened and on the reverse the the rim looks a little odd below the devices in Dollar. "Enlarge the pictures" That can indicate the Blakesley effect which tells me it was struck exactly as the coin appears. Genuine error IMHO.Not exactly sure how it happened but looks real to me Quote:
From Joe Sullivan (Error dealer) on another forum;
"The rim and part of the field was scraped away prior to strike. What caused it to be scraped away I don't know, and I don't think you could ever find out. It's worth about $40 I would say."
Another member there I greatly respect;
"Could be the end of the strip, with one side of the end machined down to taper the end of the strip, to make it easier to feed the end of the strip into the blanking press.
The machining could have migrated a bit of the cu-ni cladding out over the end of the copper, where it was then rolled down by the upsetting mill."
It's not damage, thank you.  With fadeToBlack Edited by jasper62
11/17/2013 1:41 pm
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Just read this thread, and I actually have an Ike that looks very similar to this one. AND it is still sealed in the OGP cellophane. I don't remember which year it is, though. The coin is in the safe at my father's house. I will get it out and take some pics when I get the chance. Hmmmm. I'm a little excited about this. I didn't really think much of it when I first received it. Error coins weren't really on my mind then.
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This is definitely a genuine mint error- strick on defective planchet. Those who recognize what they are looking at know, if you do not, please don't muddy the water but do your research and educate yourself on this error. It is not a matter of opinion, this coin is only one thing- a genuine error, not PMD. |
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