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Pillar of the Community
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Is this error caused by an over-abraded die, strike through grease, or does it have something to do with the obverse MAD? I have seen several 1988-P LMC's with very light designer initials, but this is the first one I've seen with no trace of them. Has anyone else seen this before and, if so, is it common and I've just missed it? Thank you for your help.    |
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Its extremely faint, but its there. Its either grease filled or the die area is full of chips. In any event, there are collectors that look for this sort of error.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Is the coin a partial collar?
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The area south may have a struck through metal on the reverse, no ? Maybe that aided in the issue with the Designer initials
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11/17/2013 12:27 am
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Hey Coop, I hate to show my ignorance here but, since I am less than sure what a partial collar looks like, could you hook me up with photos of partial collar coins so I can better answer your question? Thanks, I appreciate it.
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Collector-Corner: I have seen examples (very few) of the type of the strike through metal 1988-p cents you are referring to and this is different. I truly can see no trace of the inits in-hand or under the scope. Thank you for your help with this, I appreciate it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 On the impartial collars the planchet was not fully in the collar that makes the coin round or reeded. On some MAD coins there maybe a weakness where the die is over the edge of the rim of the coin:  The area where the die is not present does not fully form the devices. Note the second image. The weakness on AMERICA. Sometimes a partial collar's die isn't over the part of the design. So I wondered if it affected the "FG". It is probably die abrasion or struck through error. Not a keeper in my book. Others get excited about them They used to send them into be graded and this eventually stopped as it was not actually missing the device on the die. They are something people collect today and later on spend. |
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take a look at the area below the "CENTS".... is that an area that looks like it has been struck through metal ? Typically struck through metal leaves this almost Cud impression on the rim. If it looks like struck through metal, maybe the die didn't strike the die with significant strength, resulting in no designer initials. Maybe its the way my monitor shows the designer initials area (23 inch monitors), or maybe its just me eyes are trying to put an FG there. I've gone through about 30,000 pennies in about 4 months, so I think the FG is engraved in me brain ! = Þ If its gone under a scope, then, I'll take your word for it. |
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Coop: The rim looks fairly normal to me-  CollectorCorner: I think what you are referring to is just glue or some similar substance, whatever it is it is raised from the surface.  Thanks to both of you for helping me on this.
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I have found a couple examples of missing FG, and even a couple that have no lincoln in the memorial. Glad you posted this. Good info.
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Bedrock of the Community
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So it may be die abrasion or a filled grease die problem.
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I think it's die abrasion. John1  |
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Thanks to all. It's one of those coins that causes you to do a double-take when you are first examining it.
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I agree it is die abrasion. You can see the fine raised lines all over the obv. & rev. Nice one to hold onto. You never know what will be collected in 30 years. This is something in the die not like a struck through that only happens occasionally on a die and is wiped away. This is from a mint worker or something scrubbing a way a severe clashed die.
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A 1988-D recently sold for about $12 that had no fg but I think it looks like more of a small broadstruck look to it because the edge around the rim looks stretched. It also has a lot of plating bubbles. I am surprised it sold so for so much. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-D-Linc...047675.l2557 |
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Well who ever bought that coin did not use the zoom feature because I can the F and the G,faint but they are there.So not really missing the FG  John1 |
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Posted 11/17/2013 12:25 am
