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Some of you know that I assembling a PCGS "variety" 7070 Type collection. Some of you know that some of the best coins are not always in PCGS slabs, which I have learned the hard way. When I can, I acquire PCGS coins, but there are a few that were not purchased that way (NGC, ANACS, PCI, etc...). My question, and pardon me if this has been posed before, should I send in "other" slabs for PCGS certification or crack and send 'em raw? The reason that I am asking is that there are additional fees involved with sending in "other" slabs based on the value of the coin; "Guarantee Premium (1% of PCGS Price Guide value or declared value). Applies to Rarities, Crossovers and Reconsiderations. The minimum amount for the Guarantee Premium is $5. PCGS reserves the right to make the final determination of the coin's value."I realize that you can request a minimum grade on crossovers and if that grade is not obtained then PCGS will not crack the holder and return it intact. I am almost certain that they would be graded "problem free" as they are residing in the "other" slabs. What do you think? Send 'em in raw or as a crossover?  Thank you for your interest!  Edited by oih82w8 11/19/2013 7:38 pm
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Depends on the coin for me. If theyre just over a large value jump where a grade down would really hurt I would cross those, otherwise I lean towards raw with the added cross over fee.
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Edited by oih82w8 11/19/2013 2:46 pm
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Does PCGS even attribute these?
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If they are NGC, I would crossover them. I f they were Snags, I would make sure they were problem free coins with good eye appeal and cross them If they are in any other holder, crack them and submit raw. Everything that I have bought not in a Pcgs or NGC holder, I have cracked out.
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Quote: Does PCGS even attribute these? Yes. Give me a little credit in researching this.  I just did the on-line submittal forms for both raw and crossover; it pretty comes down to dollars (no sense), with the same options; attribution and tru-view imaging, raw trumps crossover by $60 (for three holdered coins, not including the 1860 IHC). Thank you for the comments/suggestions, but it makes better financial sense to send them in "raw".
Edited by oih82w8 11/19/2013 01:42 am
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Quote: Yes. Give me a little credit in researching this.
 I forgot they did FS numbers, but knew they didn't do 2C's and Nickels.
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oih82w8 I know I've posted this earlier this week, you might want to check out some of Michael's earlier blog postings on his experience with crossovers, I found it quite entertaining and informative reading. You can find his blog here: http://news.coinupdate.com/author/michaelbugeja/
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Thanks Wes, I will look into that link. Quote: ...but knew they didn't do 2C's and Nickels. I put the PCGS CoinFacts hyperlinks for those particular varieties in the third post.
Edited by oih82w8 11/19/2013 10:14 pm
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Pretty sure PCGS only crosses over NGC and ANACS, for everything else they WILL crack it out and treat it as raw. It's in their submission form.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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BStrauss3, according to the articles (more specifically below) that westcoin supplied the link for, PCGS DOES crossover PCI, ICG and ACG holdered coins; http://news.coinupdate.com/crossove...pected-2026/I am still feeling confident about submitting raw though.
Edited by oih82w8 11/19/2013 2:33 pm
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I would agree with the raw path since it doesn't sound like you're worried if they drop a grade or two and already have a raw one.
On the plus side they're working pretty fast for classic coins right now.
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-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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I dont understand why NGC did that unless they were just really bad with cross overs. PCGS has it right, it only helps them getting the best coins into their holders.
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