Nice Example Of Pidt

There is no premium for these. They are from VLDS dies. Sever old age. The dies were used past normal retirement squeezing every cent out of that die.

Who to believe? Some say this is a super rare coin, others say it's just die wear and carries no premium? While others would say that the right person might pay a substantial premium for a coin with ghosting or PIDT? I'm not sure I get this game sometimes. I hope nobody ever gets on my case again about "overpricing" unique and rare coins that have never been seen before. It seems to me that it is All subjective. Both pricing and grading.

So...

Are you a COLLECTOR ... buzz, no value here, but we have some wonderful parting gifts

or

Are you a NUMISMATIST ... wow, great entry point to research die life, PIDT, why the dies were so overused during that period, now you need an EDS, MDS, LDS to compliment the VLDS you have, etc.

That's the fun part of our hobby - the tent is big enough for all!

The only reason I said this, was because of what you said on another post SsuperDdave. I completely respect all comments and I am still new to the hobby. I am not sure if I'm a collector or a numismatist. I do know however, that I get really confused sometimes when I read contradictory posts. And please don't get on my case if I ask more questions. I am here to learn, I don't argue, I just ask more questions sometimes because I Need Clarity. Is that alright with everyone? Geesh.

one thing about coins is, there is a constant variety of them, even to this day. Everything cannot be rare or highly sought after. They can be elusive for a collector looking for this type of coin, and to him or her, it is considered rare because that individual collects them and is having a hard time locating a particular year/variety/type.

I am sure other "resident opinionaters" do what I do on occasion and that's to offer a point blank reply. I am sure the intents are all well and good, but perception play a part in this as well. One never knows how some one will react to a reply.

I will add that some of the research needs to be done by all the post creators. If a coin is deemed rare, or unique or otherwise, offering a bit of research data into the post will not only educate the poster, it will probably do so for the audience as well. I will be the FIRST to raise my hand to say, I do NOT know it all in the coin market - nor in life in general.

I will add that if the caveat of rare comes across that those coins in question are typically well documented. They would be listed as a variety, put on websites like http://www.coppercoins.com and its value significantly higher than the other coins on the website.

A collectible's rarity is brought on by the general population, meaning people. it doesn't matter how many of this or that were made, its the acceptance of the coin collectors in general and eventual drying up of the commodity that makes it rare. Then, supply and demand PLUS word of mouth and acceptance of that collectible with the rarity tag is what drives the collectors rabid like a shopper at your Favorite Department store on Black Friday as they run like mad people trying to get that blockbuster steal of a deal.

Some of the keywords are simply over used and abused. Heck, look at ebay - everything is "rare" "unique" "PQ" "blazer" "high grade" and the list goes on and on. For some, these phrases might hit a nerve every once in a while and its understandable, but counting to five slowly before firing off a reply in either direction may squelch a rather nasty debate.

I for one don't have the time or currently have the desire to fire hose meself off after a riot enduced food fight - or other material splattered on a fan, followed by tar and feathers.
Then, everyone would generally look the same, smells the same and laughs the same.