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SSuperddave Referal- Grading Resources Help Please

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 Posted 11/22/2013  07:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

I am looking to learn for my future in coin collecting, my area is heading towards mainly old British tender coins, I have been getting some very useful help/ advice and information in the main forum.
My original question was based on what equipment/ books/ tools etc will help me on my journey, have had some very useful information.
An area that Moderator SsuperDdave referred me here for is in response to the questions for recommendations for:

Advanced coin grading book?
Coin grading kit (if such exists)

Quote of Daves Referral:

If you're going to be handling mostly British issues, I urge you to post a bespoke thread on the subject of grading resources in our "United Kingdom Coins" subforum where you'll find the specialists in the field. Mention that I've referred you specifically to this method.

Thanks very much in advance
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 Posted 11/22/2013  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Battersea Dogs Home to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grading book - Grading British Coins by D F Allen.

It covers milled from 1797 to 1970. If you want to go earlier than this then you have to do your own spadework. Milled works on the same principles before 1797 as after. There is no allowance for age or issue. Uncirculated is a definition and the varying degrees of wear determine everything below this. Hammered is a completely different matter as they can be virtually flat in parts, yet still essentially uncirculated or whatever due to the vagaries of the technique.

A coin grading kit is a nebulous concept and doesn't exist. Grading is subjective outside of the 'perfect, as struck' coin - hence the frequent disagreements. Grading is only an opinion, even in the book above, but it does help if most opinions are in the same ballpark. ebay is not the place to learn grading skills.
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 Posted 11/22/2013  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin grading kit is basically your eyes. You learn by looking at a lot of coins and learning what to look for. As you look at better specimens you learn where the higher spots are and as you looks at lower grade specimens of the same coin you see how the wear hits which high spots first. That gives you knowledge of 'honest' wear - from sliding in a pocket/purse and in a coin jar, those kinds of things. And that teaches you when the wear pattern is wrong.

If there is a dealer who is particularly strong in your series, get to know him/her and spend some time. When they start digging out the back stock with a comment "Oh, you need to see this one" you are in clover. Last weekend a dealer I've met before (and bought from) showed me an SP67 from my pet series. Who knew that when very, very well preserved and sharply struck (both rare in this series), that one of the devices had four faces not two? Not I until then...
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 Posted 11/22/2013  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Equipment, books, tools?

My recommendation would be a basic UK price guide like Collectors Coins GB (cheaper than Spink, which is the best nown) and Battersea's recommended Grading book by Derek Allen.

A simple magnifying glass or lens to see detail. I bought a folding one from Boots Opticians that serves me well.

Tools? Depends on what coins you want to collect. Some people use cotton gloves to handle coins, but really unless you are picking up proof coins (specially prepared and easily damaged), just being careful will do.

And somewhere to store nicer coins. Some people use small acid-free paper envelopes, others foldable holders called 'flips' or 2"x2"s, others coin trays or cabinets.

But the main 'must haves' are the books (try a library if you want to compare) a lens ... and membership of a forum like this!

By the way, your settings don't allow emails/pms. Email me for a few more ideas if you like.
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 Posted 11/22/2013  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for the info and recommendations, all a big help thanks

Tom, have tried to email you but it the site doesn't allow it from Newbies in case of spam etc.
All ideas are more than welcomed and appreciated, I will contact support and request if it is ok to email.

Thanks
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 Posted 11/23/2013  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I echo Toms wise words.
One thing he has omitted is a LED light/Magnifyer.
You can get them from China/Hong Kong for a few £
I bought 20 so I can always find one.
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 Posted 11/28/2013  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mashisback to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to say thanks, I have managed to get a Christmas list out to Santa thanks to the recommendations from this and my other thread.

Thanks aswell for advice given, it is all taken on board :)
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