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New To Gold - Something Strange Here

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I've finally broken down and started working on a gold page for my Type Set (Let's call it 7070 v3.0). I was flipping through The Bay and came across this listing. What is wrong with this picture? Paleoguy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/11122259461....m1438.l2649
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Did Philly mint $5 eagles gold coins in 1916?

I do have to say the description bugs me:


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The coin depicts a red indians head





EDIT: I did the same thing as the seller! I really meant to say a $5 gold coin.
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That sellers a hot mess. He tried 3 or so times to get the description right and not once did he figure out his is a quarter Indian and not the 5 dollar.
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To folks not used to vernacular like "double eagle" etc ... it's easy for them to make mistakes.

I once bought a "quarter eagle" from a seller on ebay for 200 dollars .... only thing is, and he never did realize it, is that it was a "half eagle" and not a "quarter eagle" at all.

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Follow up question for basebal21 - aren't the pictures of a $5 Indian?
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Follow up question for basebal21 - aren't the pictures of a $5 Indian?




Lol youre right. I just glanced at the pics and though quarter with the multiple attempts to redo the listing.

Apparently I'm a hot mess today too
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Yup, its Hot Mess Monday...

New-To-Gold---Something-Strange-Here

So Paleoguy, help us out here!
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Well, as I "see" it (hard to do with those photos) his "rare" offering was never minted. From what I've read, only "S" minted 5 dollar coins were minted in 1916. The reverse he has pictured has no mint mark - ergo Philly mintage. PG
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That's what struck me as well...before I started calling it an Eagle. I guess it was easier for the China mint to leave off the S or grind off the S to create an ultra-rarity.
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Zoom in to the left of the branch, doesn't it look like somebody removed the S?
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It is not a half eagle... it is a HLAF eagle. There is no comparison!
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I think that must be an abbreviation for HeartyLAF
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Zoom in to the left of the branch, doesn't it look like somebody removed the S?


To me it is hard to tell what is going on with this. The photo is so poor, it is hard to see the details.

From the look of the edge area on the obverse, I think this coin was in a bezel.

Possible that between the poor quality of the picture and maybe where a bezel may have rubbed in the mint mark area
that the mint mark is just hard to see.

Not sure if it would be worth bidding on the coin, when there are so many questions.
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Nowadays, I consider a PCGS or NCG holder as an almost necessary "test" for a gold coin's authenticity. There were may fakes back in the day and there are more now.
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