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thai-vic Pillar of the Community Thailand 1509 Posts	Posted 11/26/2013 07:58 am Just acquired this. Only reference to this I could find in Krause was as a pattern under China Sindiang province. Pn47 ND(ca. 1906) Y#12, Kann#1031. Anybody have any views? Report this Post to the Staff

Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 11/26/2013 08:34 am This a copy of a very rare 1898 Sinkiang province dollar. I say copy because the design elements are wrong. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16859 Posts	Posted 11/26/2013 09:28 am As I have said in other threads about these pieces, "Sungarei" is the German name for Dzungaria, the northern half of what was then and still is the province of Sinkiang / Xinjiang. The original Sungarei dies were produced on speculation by a private mint in Germany, hoping for commissions to supply dies to China. They failed, and no circulation coins were produced. Hence their rarity. This particular coin is doubly wrong, being a "mule". The obverse (English side) claims to be a 1 dollar; the reverse (Chinese side) claims to be a 1 tael. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
thai-vic Pillar of the Community Thailand 1509 Posts	Posted 11/26/2013 1:06 pm Well done to both numismat and sap. I think this is something akin to a paperweight. It's 88mm in diameter, 4.5mm in thickness and a hefty 150gm (according to my friend's kitchenscale). Sorry, just couldn't resist the temptation to kid you along and it only cosy me $5. I thought it had great novelty value and I've been hawking it about for a few days amongst my friends asking "Have you got any small change? Could you change this?" After all that the detail on it is superb and even the edge is milled! Report this Post to the Staff
manymore Valued Member United States 347 Posts	Posted 11/26/2013 1:34 pm Quote: ...the reverse (Chinese side) claims to be a 1 tael. It actually claims to be "ten tael" (拾两)! Gary Report this Post to the Staff
macmercury Pillar of the Community United States 5837 Posts	Posted 11/26/2013 2:16 pm It would have fool me if I didn't see the reverse denomination, always check both side of the coin someone said. !! Hey, for 5 bucks that's a nice conversation piece. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16859 Posts	Posted 11/26/2013 4:57 pm Quote: It actually claims to be "ten tael" (拾两)! So it does. I didn't think to look closely at the number until I saw the size. Of course, ten-tael coins don't actually exist, for any province, but if they did, they'd weigh a lot more than 150 grams. A "tael" was variously defined but the one used on most tael coinages weighed over 30 grams. It "should" weigh twice as much. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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