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Proper Conservation Procedure For Large Cents: 1796, 1805.

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Hello,
May I ask what advice can you give me to properly preserve these 2 large cents. The 1796 is a Sheldon 82 variety, the 1803 is an S-265. Both are fairly scarce, and worth taking care of.
I am concerned about the surfaces on the 1796 which are somewhat rough, specially on the reverse. The 1805 has overall better surfaces and color, but has some green spots of corrosion on the reverse.
I have two products which I bought in the U.S: Coin Care, and a product called Verdi-Care. Are these to be recommended for the care of old copper coins?

Thank you for any advice.

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Verdicare is a good product for these coins as long as you follow the instructions. Also isn't that an 1803 not an 1805.
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Nice S-265. Yours in in much better condition than mine. I am always happy to own any R4.

People have had great success with verdicare but personally I use pure acetone on all my problem coins.
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Frankly from those images I wouldn't do anything to them. I think they look fine.
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leave them as is. The old way to conserve old copper coins was to lightly brush some "Blue Ribbon" coin preservative on them once a year, but you can't find it anymore, the EPA banned a chemical that was used in manufacturing. Bottles are hard to come by today and I've seen them sell for more than $75.00/oz. Just keep the coins out of direct light and in a dry storage, away from any humidity.
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I couldn't agree more. Leave them as is.
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Thank you all for your comments.

Like I said, the surfaces of the 1796, specially the reverse, worry me a little. They are rough and lifeless, and I would like to stop any (further) damage from occurring. In fact, I was thinking of something like the Blue Ribbon you mention, west coin, but I could not remember what it was. If the product is no longer available, well that is that.

I'll follow your advice then - leave them alone.
I store my old cents in the black Intercept Shield holders - I hope that is a suitable way to store them.

Thanks and regards,
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I store my old cents in the black Intercept Shield holders - I hope that is a suitable way to store them.


Intercept holders should be dark brown, when they turn completely black it is a sign any corrosion inhibiting material is used up and no longer benefiting your storage. I use a more simple way for my copper coins. I keep them in a variety of holders from Slabs, 2x2 stapled mylars to safe-T flips and capital plastics holders, even a few in Intercepts, also now, a Dansco album. They are then kept in a sealed large freezer baggies along with a large pack of desiccant (changed out or recharged by baking fairly often). Then all that is stored in a small sealed tupperware bin with another desiccant pack in a safe deposit box or home safe.

Living in Dallas there is mostly humidity to worry about, back in Denver, CO it wasn't as big of an issue, but for 5 years I was in Houston, TX and improperly stored a bunch of copper coins that turned from Red and Red Brown into full brown coins pretty quickly. That taught me to at least check on the coins every month or so, in Houston, I wasn't collecting actively and just stored them in the safe in a closet, and didn't even look at them for almost 5 years, DOH! Ruined a bunch of profit I had built up in nice Indian head and Lincoln Cent collections. Even had a few rainbow and color toned Morgans turn dark brown on me.

Sunlight, other full spectrum light and humidity is your enemy over time with the coppers.
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Than you, west coin, for taking the time for your very comprehensive answer.Lots of good tips in there.
The idea of using a bag of desiccant is a good one - I will make sure to put at least one in my safe deposit box.
With regards,
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