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Morgan Dollar With Chop Marks ?

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 Posted 12/16/2013  5:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add timetwister to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi out there I'm wondering if anyone has ever
come in contact with a Morgan dollar with chop marks?
I've heard of Trade dollars and others containing
chop marks but never any Morgan dollars.
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Well I'm highly doubtful of this but its possible that a Morgan dollar could get mixed in with the Trade dollars and get chopmarked seeing as they were struck in the same years weren't they?

But DONT take my word for it.
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 Posted 12/16/2013  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chopped Morgans are rare but not unknown.
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Ssuperddave could you post pics of one.?
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The Mint didn't send them as Trade coins but nothing stopped a private party from doing so.
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What's the value?
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I don't know what that one went for. As a rule, I'd give it a little extra interest value for the chops, but nothing earthshaking. 10% maybe?
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 Posted 12/16/2013  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timetwister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow I've never seen a Morgan with chop mark's
just wonder how much it went for.
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That's very interesting, a chopped Morgan over Asia, and is CC Minted, that's makes it even more scarce.

This is a very interesting subject, I'd like to know what other US coins gets chopped over Asia, with pictures if available.
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Chops would probably be limited to Crown-size coins, as it was the essential " Trade dollar" unit. All US Dollar issues up to and including the Peace dollar have been found with chopmarks. With that said, issues from multiple countries and minors are known with chops - as long as it could be physically assayed as silver/gold (a chopped 1904-S Double Eagle is known!), it could be found chopmarked in Asia. Here's a couple of relevant links; the bottom one is a .pdf (relevance starts at Page 11):

http://www.chopmarks.com/rose/rose_...ty_scale.htm

http://chopmarks.org/joomla/images/..._v14_n1p.pdf
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One reason chopmarks would be rare on Morgans would be that by the time the Morgans were in production silver had and was continuing to drop. Trade dollars were by that time being exported from China back to the US because they were worth more as coins in the US than they were as bullion in Asia. A Morgan dollar would be even worse. Why send a coin worth $1 in the US all the way to China where it would be worth $.75 or less?

There are chopmarks known on capped bust and Seated halves as well but they are also rare.
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Thanks for the links SuperDave!

I agree Condor why would they shipped a Morgan to the Orient that's worth 3/4 of the Trade dollar, probably a mix up? But what's intriguing is the fact at those time, people have devices that can detect the amount of silver in the coins?
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