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1913-S Indian Head 10$ .any Opinion Grades Are Appreciated...

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 Posted 12/12/2013  11:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pepeole to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
1913s indian head 10$ ......any opinion grades are appreciated...

1913-S-Indian-Head-10$-.any-Opinion-Grades-Are-Appreciated...



1913-S-Indian-Head-10$-.any-Opinion-Grades-Are-Appreciated...

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 Posted 12/12/2013  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need better photos, these are a bit small.
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Coin looks ME but I see no luster so maybe high AU?
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Welcome to Coin Community, pepeole. I've removed your posted email for your own protection - this forum is very efficiently indexed by Google which would make your email quite easily harvested by miscreants searching Google for posted emails.

Very nice images. Your coin is a San Francisco issue, shown by the "S" mint mark at the lower left of the reverse. This makes it a very scarce issue - only 66,000 were minted - and worth a rather considerable premium as a result. The lack of mint luster in the images is concerning, but it could well be an artifact of the imaging process, so we'll put that feature aside for the moment.

I see nothing otherwise which alarms me regarding its' authenticity, but that is a very real concern with coins such as these. They are popularly counterfeited. Ensure first that the coin's dimensions are appropriate - 26.8mm and 16.7gm.

One feature which might discourage some is, to me, an encouraging sign: the "crack" visible in the broad area of the obverse field at lower left. This is caused by an improperly-prepared die "sinking" during the minting process, and unlikely to be duplicated by a counterfeiter.

So. Let us assume this coin is real (more on that in a minute). It is, due to possible weakness of the reverse strike, very difficult to choose between Mint State and having seen just a very little circulation. If we are to assume the worst, and it has barely circulated, you can expect its' value to be well over US$3000 (melt value is about US$600, to give you an idea of the premium). If Mint State, that value reaches skyward very quickly.

However, if you are to some day realize this coin's potential, it is imperative that you have it professionally authenticated and graded. A buyer seeking a coin of this value will not be interested in an example which hasn't been examined by a professional. My recommendation to you would be to make arrangements to have the coin sent to PCGS in Paris. You can find details at http://www.pcgseurope.com. For some odd reason, even though that site is available in six languages, Spanish is not one of them.

Further, your best option for liquidation - should that be your choice - is one of the large American auction houses who command a broad audience of collectors/investors. Arrangements for such a consignment are easily made; they're experienced in dealing with sellers from across the world.
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Need better photos, these are a bit small.

I just realized larger photos were posted in the original message.

http://imageshack.com/a/img856/1715/yfrp.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img542/5044/2k4c.jpg
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Look at the Imageshack links. Those photos aren't small; the OP just had the sense to link them rather than inline them.
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I was wondering how you saw the crack! (I didn't think to click the links). Pepeole, I hope you keep us up to date on how you decide to proceed with this coin.
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It appears to be a bronze/copper copy of a $10 gold coin to me. The roughness in the field and lack of any luster is my reason in saying so.
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Cannot determine the amount of original luster that remains due to the pics, but based on what I can see I'd give the coin a 55 to 58 vote.

I've seen well known dealers refuse to buy 10$ Indians because they "thought" they were counterfeit. I stepped up to the plate and bought them with no qualms, sent em in for grading, and was happy to make a few bucks. Not to say counterfeits don't exist but I've not been burned by one yet. Based on the pics yours looks "ok". However, up close and.personal it might be a different story.

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The surfaces are very difficult to make out. Could this coin be that lacking of any remaining mint luster yet have such ms details? Simply cleaned ex jewelry?
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Nice pics for a first post! Is that a die crack on the obverse between the top of the feathers and the rim?
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The surface texture concerns me. As pointed out the details are razor sharp yet not one bit of luster. The off color could be from the lighting used for the photo but I am just not sure.
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Best sent to PCGS or NGC for authentication and certification.
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hmmm could be real or fake.......get it graded. These are faked by the chinese in large quantities I bet!
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I'm not sure on authenticity... bit AU-58.
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