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Medieval Coin Cut In Half | Long Cross Penny Of Henry III

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 Posted 12/14/2013  12:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
"HGIRIE" on the one side in the text, but that's all I can see except for a couple of letters on the other side. Any ideas?

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I think two letters are running together (known as "ligatured lettering"). It reads hENRIC; the full legend is hENRICVS REX. Long cross penny of Henry III. I'm working on the mint's name on the reverse (or is it the moneyer?)
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Okay, two more ligatured letters on the reverse. The long cross divides the legend into four quarters. The upper quarter here has a ligatured E and R, followed by a W. The lower quarter reads NEV. That N is the second letter of the word ON; these will read [name of moneyer] ON [name of town]. The town, then, is EVERW, short for Everwic, a medieval rendering of the Latin Eboracum, the name of the city of York. A few moneyers of York laid out the legend this way: TOMAS ON EVERW, ALAIN ON EVERW.
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 Posted 12/14/2013  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Philadelphian has it!

All I can add is that it's a half-penny. While halfpennies and farthing (1/4d) coins were minted during some reigns, for the most part it was easier and acceptable just to cut a penny to provide small(er) change!
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Thank you both very much! Especially some great & detailed info there, philadelphian So.. was it a halfpenny to start, or became one after it was cut and started life as a penny? Sounds like it's a halfpenny now, but just wanted to make sure.

Also, any idea on a value?
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I don't think Tom meant to say this coin started life as a round halfpenny of Henry III. Or if he did, it would be great if we could positively attribute it as such, as those are rare as hen's teeth!
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OK, I have one too! I know they're not that unusual (LOTS AND LOTS of them on VCoins) but I just thought it was cool--I wanted to have that little piece of history from a day when if you paid a whole halfpenny for something only worth HALF of a halfpenny, they'd just cut the sucker in half and give you your change! I was actually looking for a QUARTER halfpenny, just because it looked like a slice of pizza--I know, it's silly, but still...

Anyway, here's my half. (Opinions welcome if you can stop yawning.)



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By the way, are they easily found in this kind of condition? It seems surprisingly good for the age and thinness of the silver.
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