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1882 CC Morgan Raw Coin, Opinions And Grade

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Okay so I just won this Morgan and here are the ebay pictures. The winning bid was $310, I think I might of got a pretty good deal, if not at least decent. Curious to know what you guys would grade it as from these crappy pictures.

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63PL / 62DMPL. Is that a stain on the liberty?
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You got me, I wont see this thing in hand for another 6 months. I work in kuwait. But I'm trying to get 4-5 more raw 1882 cc before I send them in to get graded. Taken me almost a year and now I have 3. lol
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63, Hard to say whether it would be PL or DMPL based on the pictures.
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MS63PL - I too, can't tell the amount of PL or DMPL from the photos.
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MS64PL. Obverse doesn't look DMPL.
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I'm gonna be the buzz kill. This is not the place to shop if you're not going to see the coin for 6 months. The auction pictures are scans, not high res. photos and the reserve prices are high in my opinion. This seller peddles a lot of AU coins as Gem BU apparently to buyers that don't know how to grade. I don't even bother with any of this guy's auctions and everyone who reads this shouldn't.

I hope this comes back at least MS63PL for your sake.
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MS64PL. Obverse doesn't look DMPL


I thought a coin couldn't get a DMPL or even a PL attribute unless BOTH sides qualified.
In this case based on the images neither attribute would be appropriate.
As for the grade I think there are too many marks on the cheek; at best -63.
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MS-63 semi proof-like. This one should sell in the $225 range.
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why don't you just buy slabbed ones? There are many fakes floating around.....
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After purchasing a DMPL raw, off the Bay, I will never do it ever again, you need to see them in hand, cause any little hairlines your going to get a details grade
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I'm at MS-64 PL.
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You took a very_big_chance with this coin, and I hope you didn't just throw $100+ away on it. It's possible to draw certain conclusions from scans about a coin's surface, and the uniformly-dark appearance of the fields on this coin indicate a pretty good chance of PL surfaces. It helps that 1882-CC has a high incidence of PL & DMPL examples, but their commonality also lessens the price for them. You're going to need 64PL to justify the price you paid.

My very tentative opinion is that you have a good chance at the grade needed.
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Well regardless of the grade it will get graded, more so because I believe in preserving history. Its managed to survive in near mint state until the present time. I think it's my responsibility to ensure it stays that way. lol
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