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 Posted 01/04/2014  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was reading that it meant SENATVS ROMANVS so similar to SC just signifying it is struck withthe permission of the Roman Senate.
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 Posted 01/04/2014  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds logical enough. Never too old to learn something new.
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 Posted 01/04/2014  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would be at F+ for the geta colonial.
Nice eye appeal.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Once again it is a bit slow around this thread. I can't understand why more people aren't curious about how some of their pieces rate in the eyes of other collectors.

Well let's try and stir the sleepers

This one is the coin that brought me to this place early last year.
A really dynamite find off ebay. Fortunately the competition was sleeping that fine sunny day and I walked off with my favorite coin of all time. I tried hard to find something for comparison but to no avail. Which brought me here ....... Maybe someone had seen another one ?
After almost two years I still have the thought it might be unique.
Which begs the question if a coin is indeed unique, how do we grade it ?
The same as any coin ? Does it get bonus points ? If it is unique it is by definition "Finest" example known even if rough around the edges.

AE As Caligula
Rv. As of Germanicus (issued by Caligula)
Just to complicate the matter it appears to be an over strike on another Imperial issue (perhaps Tiberius ?)
What looks to be a counter stamp is a section of legend on the original coin. More evidence for this is the elongated flan and the tapered thickness.

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Originally I had sent pics to 2 dealers whom I believed to be 'experts' in these matters. 'L' was quite excited by it and praised the general condition. 'E' meanwhile pooh poohed the coin and insisted it was a known variety of a 'colonial' issue. I don't see a colonial issue and so discount his opinion on this.
I grade at high F obverse and VF reverse. Remember that some detail is complicated by being an 'overstrike'.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin has some nice detail, but the uneven patina takes away from the grade a bit along with it being slightly off center and with some of the legend missing. Overall I would give it a grade of aVF.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree with your grade on the Caligula FR for the reverse but for the obverse I would put it just under F due to not have a full legend and some of the wear on the higher points
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 Posted 01/05/2014  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one of mine I can toss up for grading. I have given it around an F just because all of the details have a fair amount of ware.

Trajan Bi Tetradrachm Alexandria
year 19 (A.D. 116/7).
Obv. laureate head right, star before
Dikaiosyne standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae; across field, L I-Θ.
Köln 684; Milne 740; Emmett 372

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 Posted 01/05/2014  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with your grade.
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 Posted 01/06/2014  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say the Caligula coin is a F note corroded obverse. The legends are pretty good by the surface condition keeps it from being VF. Although because it is an overstrike is should be noted as such in the grade. I always believed a grade needs a description, and I could think of no better example than this one.

The Tetradrachm of Trajan-The tet is overall a very pleasing coin I would give it a aVF. The disappearance of the ear keeps it from a solid VF in my eyes. Although it is better than a fine as the wreath is still separate from the hair. A very pleasing specimen.
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 Posted 01/06/2014  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about we grade some confiscated church plate. I can't imagine this coin was ever that pretty...

Byzantine Empire
Eastern Roman Empire
Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine
AR Hexagram 22.0 mm x 6.28 g
Constantinople mint. 610-640 AD
Obv. dd NN HERAKLIUS et hERA CONST Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine seated facing on double throne
Rev. Large DEUS ADIUTA ROMANIS Cross potent above three steps (God Help the Romans)
ref# S 798
Note:Rare

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 Posted 01/06/2014  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice rare coin, wish I had one of these. It has a weak strike. I would grade it at Fine+
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 Posted 01/06/2014  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about a Valens? It's very dark.

I have this one as..
Obverse: D N VALENS P F AVG
Pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
Reverse: SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE
Victory advancing left, wreath in right, palm frond in left, * / k left, q right, asisce in ex
Siscia Mint
RIC 15b type xxvii(b)
Size: 18.05mm
Weight: 2.43g
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 Posted 01/06/2014  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have absolutely no idea on how to grade ancient coins, but finding this a very interesting thread - excellent idea to help us all learn! Will post a few of mine later for opinions.
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What effect would having coins like this one that have had a hole 'plugged' have on the grade?



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 Posted 01/06/2014  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Valens I would grade at Fine +.
The Victorinus because of the hole and off center flan I would grade at Fine.
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