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Very nice coin with a good strike and nice details. Overall I would grade it at VF. I believe it is RIC VI Lyons 129a Constantius I.
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Thank you both, I thought it was a sacrifice ..... on the wrong trail once again lol.
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Could you do this one for me as well please.
weight is 10.52 grams,
max diameter is 26.75 mm.
I have it as Hadrian.



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 Posted 01/12/2014  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hadrian, 117-138 AD, bronze as, SR-3693, SC in wreath, Rome, 138 AD. F-.
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Nice green patina, aF.
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It's amazing how close ancient grading is to US Colonial grading.
You have to take into account several factors when grading Colonials.
I would call this a F if Colonial.
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Now this is where I differ with my fellow collectors. Irregular flan certainly detracts a 'bit' but not too much in my book as these things are not unusual. The photo though is something that I would immediately be drawn to. No offence intended but ....... This is the sort of pic that virtually screams "Much Better In Hand !". Small flan excuses the incomplete legend and the coin looks thick.

I see a complete hair line and ear lobe. The face is shadowed but it looks like the eyes mouth and nose are sharp. The patina is gorgeous ! Long and short I am in love. I want it I want it !

You found this coin ? I am 'green' with envy.

I give it a 'firm' low end VF

FR scale ...... VF-4
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See in Roman portrait coinage I generally grade primarily on the ear/hairline/Laureate combination once they all become one surface indistinguishable the coin is a fine. If these three devices are clearly defined then the coin is very likely a VF.
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 Posted 01/12/2014  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also grade on the amount of facial features, including the hair, beard, ears and head gear.
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My primary point was that I believe the photo does not do justice to this subject.
I have a strong inclination that this coin has more going for it than can be easily seen with the face in shadows. And the color and patina ....... thats about as good as it gets.

Our good friend MetDet is very good at finding treasures !
From posting pics this past year I find myself getting pretty good at photographing "Dead Emperors".
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Alas, this was not a detector find, I swapped a half ounce Britannia for a mixture of coinage. I will try and brush up on the photo skills as the coin is better in hand. I would grade it at about F+.
The colour is pretty nice, do we include that or is that another topic?
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In my humble opinion ..... Especially when almost everything we really like might be called into question, this type of 'thick' and choice olive green patina (which is almost impossible to fake short of using baked on enamel paint !) Is a very big plus. It does not really change the actual 'state' of the coin but as far as eye appeal and overall desirability goes. I give it 'bonus' points which knocked it up half a grade.

Anyone who has been around ancients for more than a few weeks can tell at but a glance that this is no fake with a 99% probability. Well someone could I suppose actually "bake a fake" but I have never heard of that before.
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Pergamene Kingdom
Pergamon, Mysia, Anatolia
Attalos I 241-197 BC s. 215-197 BC
AR Tetradrachm 28.5 mm x 16.28 grams
Obverse: Laureate head of Philetaerus right.
Reverse: PhILETAIPOY- Athena seated holding wreath, resting on gorgon shield. Bee device in left field, bow in right field.
ref:Westermark Group VIB cf. SNG BnF 1623 ff. BMC Mysia p. 117, 43ff. (same as Eumenes II)


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I've give this one VG+
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Picture is a little dark but from what I can see I would grade it at F+
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