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This is a coin I got from family, however I'm not sure what it is. here is a better quality pic.



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sorry, can't tell from your pictures. Try backing away some. The images may be smaller but they may be more in focus.

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to CCF! Need better pictures to help you.
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Since you have changed the pictures.

The first one almost looks like a coin from Finland.
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What I think we're seeing in the first pic is a chalice (radiant), with the round communion wafer (the host) above it, surmounted by the letters IHS. Such medals are given to Catholic children at their first communion. A sharper image of the first pic might allow the writing around the edge to give us more specifics.
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To philadelphian, I do believe it says first communion on it, so it is a medal?
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The first one almost looks like a coin from Finland.


It's not like any Finnish coin I've ever seen.
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It's not like any Finnish coin I've ever seen.

My comment was back when the pictures were blurry and it the chalice looked a little like the eagle with wings spread on many Finland coins. With the better pictures (3rd set), I agree it doesn't look like a Finnish coin.
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Finnish coins usually have a lion trampling on a curved sword (representing the East) and holding a straight sword (representing the West).

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To philadelphian, I do believe it says first communion on it, so it is a medal?

Yes. Religious medals are very difficult to date, since they've been making them for hundreds of years with more or less the same design.
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I'm no expert or even a collector of them but I believe as stated that it is a communion coin. Were so popular in parts of PA that I think I have seen a book or two written on them. "COMMUNION TOKENS of ALLEGHENY COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA, Culleiton. A wealth of information on the churches, issuers. Soft-Bound 2004, 102p. Detailed descriptions, Historical Notes"
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since this has apparently been identified, moving this to the Tokens, Medals, and other Exonumia section
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My comment was back when the pictures were blurry and it the chalice looked a little like the eagle with wings spread on many Finland coins.


Fuzzy317, I was wrong and you were right. I was thinking of Finnish coins issued after Finland gained their independence. Coins issue prior to that did indeed look very much like the medal.



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Communion tokens.
I associate them with Scotland, and would appreciate clarification.
Other countries as well?
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I did misspeak when I called these Catholic. They are particularly Presbyterian, first proposed by Calvin in 1560. Though I think this one has more in common with more modern, Catholic first communion tokens.
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matthewvincent Communion tokens.
I associate them with Scotland, and would appreciate clarification.
Other countries as well?



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I'm no expert or even a collector of them but I believe as stated that it is a communion coin. Were so popular in parts of PA that I think I have seen a book or two written on them. "COMMUNION TOKENS of ALLEGHENY COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA, Culleiton. A wealth of information on the churches, issuers. Soft-Bound 2004, 102p. Detailed descriptions, Historical Notes"
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