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1971-D Kennedy Half Wrong Planchet?

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 Posted 12/21/2013  7:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a 1971D Kennedy half I found roll hunting that weighs 8.8g - 8.9g depending on how the wind blows. The coin does unfortunately have roller damage to the outer circumference.

I have found a few other Kennedy halves that are under weight but usually come in at 10.2g - 10.4g and one overweight at 11.9g. Usually they have a distinctive sound to them which causes me to set them aside and weigh them later.

All of the Magicians halves I have found weight in at 10.4 and have a hollow thud to them.

So was the US mint striking any other coins at the Denver mint in 1971 using a thinner and lighter planchet or what type of planchet flaw would cause such a weight and thickness difference?

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 Posted 12/21/2013  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like you found a wrong stock error struck on quarter stock. This is different than a wrong planchet error. With a wrong planchet error the half would weigh the same as a quarter and be smaller in size. But with your coin the error happened because coil stock rolled to quarter stock thickness was use to punch out half dollar blanks. Nice find!
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 Posted 12/21/2013  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you are right about rolled to the wrong thickness planchet.

I just went rummaging through my box of off weight halves and found another one.

I wonder if sending them in to a TPG together would throw up a red flag as to their authenticity or add credence to their authenticity?

I wonder what the slab would say?

Just underweight or a detailed explanation like quarter stock?

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 Posted 12/21/2013  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think if you send it in requesting the error attribution of struck on quarter stock you should get it.
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 Posted 12/21/2013  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since you started me in the right direction with wrong planchet stock key word search phrase I found this article and it seems 1971 was a big year for wrong stock errors

"Wrong stock errors from the period surrounding this particular error include 1970-D and 1971-D Washington quarter dollars struck on dime stock, 1970-D Roosevelt dimes struck on quarter dollar stock, and 1971-D Kennedy half dollars struck on quarter dollar stock"

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I have a 1969 D dime I found from circulation struck on quarter stock. It seems the Denver mint created several of this type of error in the late 60's to early 70's. The Official Coneca Handbook has a page listing the weights of the possible wrong stock errors. I have referred to this page several times in the past.
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 Posted 12/21/2013  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any idea as to the value and rarity of mine?
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 Posted 12/21/2013  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really don't know. The popular 1970 D quarter struck on dime stock typically brings $20 up. I would guess this half would bring more than the quarter.
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The coin appears to be lightly struck.
That is due to the thin blank.
Interesting error.
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 Posted 12/22/2013  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The Official Coneca Handbook has a page listing the weights of the possible wrong stock errors


Does the book show a half with a weight of 11.8g?

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The weights are actually listed in grains and have to be converted if weighed in grams but no. It is probably a slightly thick planchet.
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 Posted 12/23/2013  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albertharris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahhh now we're dong half's did you change the roller stock?

I knew I forgot something
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 Posted 01/16/2014  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got these back today from ANACS from their insider special free grading.

Thank you ANACS

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 Posted 01/16/2014  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very Nice!
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great post!
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Now you need a companion, specifically a quarter struck on dime stock They are known for several years in the late 60s/early 70s and would be a bit more common than your half dollars.
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