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Hi -- Can I get some opinions on the possible grade and value of this Seated Liberty half dime? Please also let me know specifically what you think about some things my untrained eye sees going on, with this coin -- specifically near the starts to either side of Lady Liberty's head, on the obverse, and then on the reverse, near the letters TES OF; also on the reverse, are those "tooling marks" between the H and A of the word "HALF?" What do you make of these things I'm pointing out, which would appear -- again, to my untrained eye -- as being artifacts of some sort of "die issues?" How might these "issues" affect the value of the coin?   Thanks! Steve |
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G details
Poorly cleaned and I can't quite tell if those are die clashes on both sides or not
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Thanks dsfreeworld. Can you tell me what the implications of "die clashes" would be, with respect to the base value of a particular coin?
Thanks!
Steve
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You need to put less light (turn off flash?) on the coin. Details looks Fine and it does look cleaned. It's likely worth about $10 retail.
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I don't know what's going on with this coin on the obverse but looks F Details
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sgoss66... some collectors of certain series , Morgans in particular, collect varieties based on clashes. Here is a a good description of Die Clashing... http://www.vamworld.com/clashed+dies With your coin I suspect the clashes are more of a novelty that some may think add value and some collectors could not care less... |
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OK, BH1964...here are a couple of new pics in different light; hopefully, these are better...I'm really curious about these interesting "issues" that apparently are "die" issues...   Thanks! Steve Edited by sgoss66
12/22/2013 4:57 pm
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amida17 --
Thanks for the link about die clashes...VERY interesting.
zxcccxz --
What do you mean by "don't know what's going on with this coin?"
Steve
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Thanks, all...
So, are there any thoughts yet on whether that is indeed some type of "die clash" going on, on this coin, and whether that affects the value? I've had some thoughts on it; anyone else?
Steve
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VG-10 details cleaned. Absolutely it has heavy clashing on both sides of the coin. You can see the image of the date in TES on the reverse. This issue of coin is frequently found clashed so any additional value will be minimal. Some might find it a little more interesting than others but the cleaning will more than offset any small value gained by the clashes.
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chesterb --
Thanks for the detailed info. I thought I could see what might have been a "date" on the reverse, overlaid by the TES in "STATES." Sounds like that's pretty common on this coin, though...
You also say that the "cleaning" hurts the value. Again, just to be clear (I'm trying to learn some things, here), by "cleaning" you mean the fact that the coin has no "toning," but instead looks shiny? Is this what you are saying?
Steve
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You also say that the "cleaning" hurts the value. Again, just to be clear (I'm trying to learn some things, here), by "cleaning" you mean the fact that the coin has no "toning," but instead looks shiny? Is this what you are saying?
That's part of it. Your coin is "stripped of its original patina". 19th century circulated silver would have toning as you say, some color somewhere. Yours doesn't. |
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BH1964 -- OK, got it. Makes sense. So, here's a weird question. While I'm not sure how "toning" or "patina" forms, if I let this coin sit for another 50 years, and it develops new "toning," or "patina," then would this coin theoretically then increase in value, since it would presumably begin to look more "natural" again?
Steve
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I think it may Steve although it may looked like it was cleaned a long time ago. Some collectors have developed a skill in determining that. Just leave it alone and let it tone again. Some people put them on their windowsills to help speed up the process. It does work but just make sure you where gloves when holding it. Mine developed some ugly fingerprints when I tried that method.
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BTW, good job asking questions. That's how you learn! Anyone can make a coin look bright silver again but it takes decades to develop the nice natural toning that collectors look for. It also takes proper storage too. An old time dealer once equated the cleaning of a coin to taking a brillo pad to your brand new mint condition Porsche.
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12/23/2013 01:23 am
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