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The 55 Days Of Canadian Silver 50 Cents!!

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 Posted 01/28/2014  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@artdio, yes, the history caused me to post that, i.e. what's the point of faking something that never gets sold. I'll actually have something relevant to post here in about a week!
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 Posted 01/28/2014  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ kbbpll, thats what I said for a very long time , so for me it doesn't much matter. The coin will remain in my set ....
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 Posted 01/28/2014  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's a fake that 1921 has the most unique history of any coin ever counterfeited. The rarity of the 1921 50ยข was not known for at least a decade. Before the 29's were struck, if you had any inkling that the '21 was exceedingly rare all you had to do to obtain a genuine example was to request one from the BOC or visit the mint. There were so few collectors of Canadian decimal currency at the time, that in 8 years less than 100,perhaps less than 50 were obtained.
If your coin is fake artdio it must have been made by the most prescient counterfeiter in history.Send it for definitive testing.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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DBM, just curious if it was that easy to get one way back in the day then do we really know how many might have been aquired by normal people... I meen records are not always as accurate as they seem, ( the recent gold hoard ) so maybe a few hundred or more escaped the mint during the great meltdown? something to think about, right ?
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 Posted 01/28/2014  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is something to think about, stranger things have happened.
The BOC hoard wasn't unknown, it was just assumed that the melting pot would be the ultimate fate of the gold coins.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Send it for definitive testing.


He did already. It was shown to people who have handled many of the known 1921 50-cent coins, including the curator of the Bank of Canada Currency Museum, Sandy Campbell and several other coin dealers who have previously handled this key date - and it was compared with several examples I was able to get my hands on, including Kosta Bakalos fine example (Bluenose Coins & Precious Metals). It was also examined by quantitative scanning electron microscope (SEM) as well as XRF. There are certain key markers on that coin,and certain properties of the final digit, that don't match either the known specimen or business strikes of the existing 1921 50-cent coins. This coin will be featured in a future paper in the CN Journal, with all the diagnostic markers and characteristics, when I get around to writing it...

Take Sid's images, and compare them to this example: http://www.pentictonbullion.ca/coin...21-50-cents/

Use overlays or draw lines or whatever funky software you want and figure it out - or wait for the paper....

My reason for coming out of lurk mode is not to rain on Sid's show. I like Sid's coin, a lot. But I like his perspective on this piece even more - we should all strive to be proud to own our coins, as he does. Whomever altered the date, was a professional, and with the toning, it was done a LONG time ago (mine, and other's opinion - draw your own opinions at face value). Regardless of its status, it was something of his grandfather's and Sid is able to look at it and hold it every day - sentimental value is something you cannot put a price tag on.

I won't post anything more on this, I'd rather see the thread on its intended course - time for some nice George VI 50-cent coins...
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Thank you for clearing that up SPP.I thought the coin's status was still in limbo.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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 Posted 01/28/2014  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Roger, for putting it that way and you are correct, Sentimental value is worth much more + no matter what its still a very pretty coin...
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 Posted 01/28/2014  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for bringing that up again, but thanks for the additional information. 1937 - anybody have one?
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I missed a couple of KGV dates from my collection, but they were pretty typical AG3-VG8 stuff. I'm psyched for KGVI, which for my collection, starts tomorrow
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Can't find the Reverses for a few of these right now.... Maybe in a week..

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My 1937 ex ICCS MS65 .. The pinkish & gold toning highlighted with the frosted luster just dont show the way I wish it did..In hand its an amazing full bodied beauty

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Nicely toned 37s, thanks for sharing.
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Like the toning on both of those! Very nice!
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I can finally Play

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