2014 American Silver Eagles

Nope...I have been an ASE collector for many years. I bought my 1st roll (1988) at my local bank. They are the same coins. Just because one ASE has a different strike quality than another doesn't make it a different coin..it's the same coin with a different appearance.

Dies wear out over time and the 1st coin struck may look different from the last coin struck. Maybe even a die break/crack in older issues...does that make it a completely different coin? Nope.....

Shiny vs a more burnished finish (happened frequently with the 2008 W's and earlier bullion versions)..different coin? Nope...

I should add that I mostly collect graded ASE's and bullion rolls so I am not anti-TPG.

The coins are the same coins struck in different places evidenced by the fact that no one (TPG's included) have been able to identify any way to tell them apart (other than the marking on/in a green monster box). . Believe what you want and feel to choose not to let facts get in the way of those beliefs. Your collection should be made up of what YOU want to collect but...again...to the OP's question..3 different coins

The fact that theyre minted 3000 miles apart makes them a different coin.




Not to be a jerk but youre the one not letting facts get in the way of your beliefs. Its a known fact theyre minted at different mints. A simple mint mark doesn't change where somethings minted it just shows where it is. The sealed monster boxes with the label from the mint provide the same information.

There may not be a big or any value difference, but something minted at West Point is not the same as something minted in SF whether the coin has a mint mark or not.

I have to agree here. Earlier I mentioned the cents minted without mint marks in West Point from 1974 to 1986. No one can tell those from their Philadelphia counterparts. The only thing we have for the ASE is the monster box and a TPG certifying it. Once they are in the wild (out of the box or slab), they are, for all practical purposes, the same.

Practically speaking they are the same at that point once their origin has been lost. Technically though they are still different, we just cant tell at this point. As long as their prices remain about equal I doubt anyone would really put in the work to try and figure it out like weve seen others do with dye pairings in the past.

Whether the mint mark is on the coin of the label though, when their mint of origin can be confirmed there are two different versions of it. If someone could have gotten their hands on those west point Lincolns and had them certified with the W people would go crazy over those.

Theres probably no risk of anyone wasting time on fake slabs for it right now since theres no real price difference. Maybe a few bucks extra for the S at best but no where near enough to waste the effort on it.

To me the fake slab threat is overblown compared to what it really is. They do exist but not to the extent that you should assume everyones fake till proven otherwise. Plus you can always just buy it from from a reputable big seller who submitted them themselves eliminating that threat.

I would bet there is actually a way to tell them apart if someone was willing to put the work in since no two presses are alike even if the differences arent apparent to most. But with the value being essentially the same with the (S) or (W) theres not much incentive to it other than love of the series. Even though theyre a popular series they dont seem to have the same type of fanatical collectors that bust coinage or morgans have which lead to someone putting in extensive time researching them.

The New Orleans dollars were struck with sharp new dies not worn used Philadelphia dies. But yes that was the difference, every New Orleans dollar bore evidence right on the coin that declared it's origin.

They probably can't because the whole idea of the ASE bullion coins is that they are just that bullion. So one piece is considered to be no different from any other. Since to the government they are all the same they aren't going to handle special requests. (Frankly though, in that case why bother with distinctive banding for each facility?)