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How many different ASEs are planned for 2014? Is it the same as last year:
(1) Proof (2) Burnished Unc. (3) Bullion ( S ) (4) Bullion ( W ) (5&6) Special 2 coin set?
I have not heard anything on a special set for this year, does anyone have any info. on that?
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Regular bullion. Don't forget that.
Have not seen anything about a 2 coin set for 14.
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I saw something a while back that sounded like the special sets were being put on hold for a while. Right now it looks like there will just be the 5.
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Could just be three. Bullion W, UNC, and Proof. San Fran has been supplimenting West Point Eagle production, but I don't think that is a yearly guarantee. Though unless West Point expands production, it probably will be a yearly thing.
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Wouldn't that be three without a special set, Burnished, bullion and Proof?
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Yup, three would about cover it....the (w) and (s)is a TPG thing..same coin.. Depending on the whim of the Mint they could always sneak in a "special" set that might add to this number
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The (w) and (s) are only the same coin if you think that theres only 1 dime and 1 nickel and 1 cent minted each year. Technically it would be 4 different ones but a lot of people include a 5th mystery mint bullion coin as one.
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Here's what Coin Week had to say about ASEs for 2014....
There will be no special American silver eagle set in 2014, as the Mint realizes collectors are at the saturation point for those sets, but whether they issue enhanced uncirculated silver eagles as a single coin series instead is still a possibility. I am sure there will be some exciting surprises during the year too.
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Just three so far this year, the acting dir. noted that collectors were burned out of the special sets. Wouldn't mind if they made the Enhanced uncirculated an annual offering by itself as it brings the design out better than the normal proof does. Also about time they figured out another design for the silver and gold bullion coins.
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Quote: The (w) and (s) are only the same coin if you think that theres only 1 dime and 1 nickel and 1 cent minted each year I would think a mintmark would make it a different coin...put a D mint coin next to a P or no mintmark coin and you can tell the difference...put an ASE from SF and one from WP next to each other and they will be the same So for types of ASE's there would be 3 scheduled for 2014 so far
Edited by Foxwoods Man 01/03/2014 10:21 am
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Quote: The (w) and (s) are only the same coin if you think that theres only 1 dime and 1 nickel and 1 cent minted each year. Please correct me if I am mistaken but aren't the (w) and (s) bullion coins indistinguishable form one another if they are put side by side without any packaging? Because if that is the case your comparison is a little lacking.
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Quote: ...aren't the (w) and (s) bullion coins indistinguishable form one another if they are put side by side without any packaging? Yes, just like the cents minted at West Point are indistinguishable from the Philadelphia ones.
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Unless it has a mint mark on it... it isn't anything like the coins minted in Denver and Philly which do have mint marks and you can take from the package and still know where it was made. These are bullion coins - and even the people who mint them don't offer up a distinction because these were never minted to be numismatic coins - but simply silver bullion with an American Eagle on it. You can grade them and do everything you want to them - but it doesn't raise them above the origins they started with - silver bullion rounds.
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The bullion ASEs I have from last year from WP and SF have a different look to them. The SF coin has more of a silver frosted look and the WP coin had more of a metallic sheen. Maybe that was just a coincidence, but I can tell these coins apart from each other.
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Quote:Yup, three would about cover it....the (w) and (s)is a TPG thing..same coin.. Quote: Unless it has a mint mark on it... it isn't anything like the coins minted in Denver and Philly which do have mint marks Two men's opinion......so to speak. They are different coins. They are minted with different dies, in a different mint, by different people. They are just as different as Morgan dollars. The O minted Morgan dollars were minted in New Orleans , but with worn and used dies shipped from the Philadelphis mint. The only different between these coins, except for the different mint location and the different people, was that a worker took the Phila dies and hand punched an "O" on to them. This is no different than a TPG sticking an "S" label on to them. To each his own, but to an ASE collector, these are two different coins.
Edited by denco7 01/03/2014 2:14 pm
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Quote: The bullion ASEs I have from last year from WP and SF have a different look to them. The SF coin has more of a silver frosted look and the WP coin had more of a metallic sheen. Maybe that was just a coincidence, but I can tell these coins apart from each other. This is the first I have heard of this, not saying it isn't true. I can't honestly say I have looked at them side by side to tell. Maybe I can find someone/somewhere local that has them to view. Quote:The only different between these coins, except for the different mint location and the different people, was that a worker took the Phila dies and hand punched an "O" on to them. This is no different than a TPG sticking an "S" label on to them. I beg to differ. The "O" in your example was applied AT THE MINT. When they left the mint they were labeled differently by a third party who, if I submitted a raw bullion coin from 2013 would not be able to differentiate whether it should receive a "S" or 'W" label. Quote:To each his own, but to an ASE collector, these are two different coins. Again, that is your opinion only. I collect the ASE's and don't consider them anything more than a slick marketing ploy by the TPGs. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion but it doesn't make it any more right than mine.
Edited by Merc Man 01/03/2014 2:40 pm
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