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Should 2x2's Be Used Instead Of The Sleeves From The Mint?

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 Posted 01/27/2023  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I used 2 x 2's on most of my circulated coins. That said, I'm now using air-tite capsules more and more.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I recently asked the RAM if the capsules were safe for long term storage and if the plastic was PVC.


Bit confused as to why the RAM would continue to use PVC ?
I guess it is cheaper to do so but it seems no one has told them to stop it.
Coin collectors on this forum bang on about the degradation of coins left in PVC holders.
Do other countries use PVC holders to house brand new coins?

To the best of my knowledge, the RAM has not used PVC since it stopped making the plastic wallets for mint sets, 1983 I believe was the last year. The hard plastic blister packs are PVC free. The RAM was probably one of the last mints to switch out from using PVC in mint packaging.

PVC itself isn't the problem, when it comes to reacting with metal. Pure PVC is a hard, brittle, translucent solid. To make it soft and rubbery (and therefore suitable to use in a coin album page or mint wallet) they have to add plasticizer, usually an acid-phthalate plasticizer. It is this acidic plasticizer that slowly leaches out of the plastic over time and damages coins, especially in warm, humid environments.

If the plastic is transparent but not soft and flexible, then it's not PVC.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The plastic capsule in above photo holding the Tooth Fairy coin is transparent ,soft and flexible I would say.
Here is the reply from the Mint

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Thank you for contacting the Royal Australian Mint.



The PVC packaging used by Mint is designed for long term storage.



We have been using this packaging for many years and have not had any complaints regarding tarnishing or discolouring to coins.



Kind regards, Allie



Customer Service Team

Royal Australian Mint
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 Posted 04/08/2023  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sap, could you please ask the RAM yourself if the coin capsules they use,like the one above that holds the 2021 Tooth Fairy coin, are PVC ?
Seems my response from Allie at the RAM needs to be re-affirmed by someone else.

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To the best of my knowledge, the RAM has not used PVC since it stopped making the plastic wallets for mint sets, 1983 I believe was the last year. The hard plastic blister packs are PVC free. The RAM was probably one of the last mints to switch out from using PVC in mint packaging.

PVC itself isn't the problem, when it comes to reacting with metal. Pure PVC is a hard, brittle, translucent solid. To make it soft and rubbery (and therefore suitable to use in a coin album page or mint wallet) they have to add plasticizer, usually an acid-phthalate plasticizer. It is this acidic plasticizer that slowly leaches out of the plastic over time and damages coins, especially in warm, humid environments.

So in theory, it is safe to store all coins in the original packaging from the RAM even if it is PVC. Except the UNC coins that came in Mint Wallets pre 1983?
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04/08/2023 10:57 pm
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