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About Haxby 1859 Large Cent Varieties And Rarity

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 Posted 01/05/2014  5:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add buddy64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

Found Haxby's 1859 Victorian cent catalog by chance today, completely in awe by all the work done on the series and have learned a lot just by going through the main article.

The site if anyone didn't know about it already (I'm sure I was among the last few not knowing about it until today)

http://www.vickycents.com/


Question though, I wasn't able to find anything regarding the rarity of each variety or die combination listed on the catalog, is that information available somewhere?

Thanks guys :)



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 Posted 01/05/2014  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse groups L-O seem to be the rarest. Check out the chart here.
http://www.vickycents.com/rev-group...ng-aids.html
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 Posted 01/05/2014  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add torgemco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
for me this coin(variety) is a mystery wrapped in an
enigma
http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...nt-1858-1859
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 Posted 01/05/2014  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
buddy64 go to website tfred has supplied you then go to id my coin at the bottom reverse sorting aids and check out the groups of die pairs
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 Posted 01/05/2014  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At the present time Dr Haxby is not publishing either rarity or value. The site is a gift to the Canadian collecting community. There is no cost to use and hopefully enjoy, but at the same time no clear way to make a profit from collecting 1859 cents. If you try finding each die pair rarity becomes quickly apparent. Ed
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 Posted 01/05/2014  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link to the table tfred, does help a lot :)

Agreed nybird, Dr. Haxby defitely did an amazingly thorough work on 1859, think about how much fun and enjoyment will be left out had he not dug this deep into this gold mine of varieties and die pairing of 1859 large cents...
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 Posted 01/06/2014  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paddy murphy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My wife thinks I'm insane because I saw this post and went to the Vicky website and spend 2 hours on it last night. I have 3 1859 cents that I had previously checked for over-dates and doubled 9's, which they didn't have but had no idea about the other variations.

Initially all look identical, but in 5 minutes it was clear all were different. One has no top to the T in GRATIA and the N in REGINA is missing it's top right. All of the leaf #7 loops are different, #9 leaf stems differ, etc...

I'll post my coins later this week with what I think are their varieties.
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 Posted 01/06/2014  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billfrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was his work published in the Numismatica a couple
years back ?
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 Posted 01/06/2014  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. He was intending to publish the information found on the vickycents site in serial form but he found the website idea easier to work with and make corrections to as new information emerged. Unlimited clear color photos also had a lot of appeal.
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Quote:
He was intending to publish the information found on the vickycents site in serial form but he found the website idea easier to work with and make corrections to as new information emerged. Unlimited clear color photos also had a lot of appeal.


Makes it accessible to more people, as well
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 Posted 01/14/2014  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JHax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're not kidding. It was originally my plan to publish my catalog in book (paper) form, but a quick calculation suggested it would be so big it would have to sell for $300 a copy. At that price it would have ended up in the libraries of perhaps six people. So, the logical solution was to put it on line for free. In that way anyone who can get on line can use it and I can make revisions as needed without publishing later editions and charging collectors even more money....
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Welcome to CCF Jim....
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer

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JHax, thank you for the gift of the vickycents site. Thank you for half a century of pioneering work in Canadian numismatics.Where would it be without you?
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Thanks for your amazing work Jim.

I've spent hours there and can only guess at the thousands of hours that you must have spent trying to get them all in some type of useful order.

It must have been a daunting task,... but greatly appreciated by the 59'ers...
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Indeed, a LOT of work has gone into just the site, without even trying to calculate the years of actual research. I wish more people thought like you - it's definitely a great gift for the numismatic community. Thank you

And welcome to CCF, too!
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 Posted 01/14/2014  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JHax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much for the welcome and the kind words. I should also take this opportunity to recognize Ed's (nybird) untiring work as my webmaster, assistant and general alter ego. Without him I doubt my on line catalog would exist! Ed has also discovered some new dies and new die combinations that were unknown to me.
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