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1799 Dollar Coin Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 01/05/2014  9:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DannyG25 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This coin is my fathers and he wanted me to do research to see if it was real and I was hoping if I can get some answers from you guys. ill post the pics below

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/...72c6decc.jpg

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/...ea3a180b.jpg


My dad acquired this from a friend from what I know.

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 Posted 01/05/2014  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine but I'm no expert
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 Posted 01/05/2014  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But...
Absolutely a forgery. Absence of the word LIBERTY over Liberty's head is clue #1
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01/05/2014 9:20 pm
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 Posted 01/05/2014  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse looks odd. My gut tells me it isn't real.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Minimum of 6 varietiess of the 1799. Yours appears to be the 1799 irrigular date with 15 stars on the reverse. Also, appears to be about EF-40 or thereabout. If real that would be about a $4,000 coin. It does look real to me too. Not sure why anyone would counterfeit just that variety. But you can never tell about why anyone does anything. Yet to me it does look real.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Absolutely a forgery. Absence of the word LIBERTY over Liberty's head is clue #1


Hopefully your father didn't pay much for this. If he did he needs to re-evaluate the trustworthiness of his friends.
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01/05/2014 9:21 pm
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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Come on guys! How can this possibly be a real coin? This is a fake.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DannyG25 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No My father did not pay a single cent for this coin and the other ones he has. It seems I have a mixture of answers here some saying fake others real. I'm hoping its real. we need the money.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like one they sell at Chinatown.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not real.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a division of opinions here. I will not offer one, simply because I am no expert, either.

Some simple preliminary tests could be carried out.
Take it to a well established dealer.
Ask him to offer an opinion.
Get him the measure and weigh it.
Get him to do a comparative ring tone test with a known genuine coin.

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A simple review of this thread and the links leaves in my mind no doubt that this is a 'no brainer' fake.
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01/05/2014 11:14 pm
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Oh, please. Chester was right, and it seems it needs to be said again. There's no question here that this is a fake. And if you're not going to trust the Black Cabinet of Steve Caruso, our resident expert on counterfeits, who are you going to believe?
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 Posted 01/05/2014  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if we can't even help someone out with the most obvious of fakes then we are an embarrassment to all the online coin forums out there.
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 Posted 01/05/2014  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FAKE! Missing the word LIBERTY on the obverse.
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 Posted 01/06/2014  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No doubt a fake.
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