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No Cameo Modern Proof?

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Has anyone ever heard of a modern (last 20 ish years or so) proof that does not have the cameo designation?
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I have over two dozen impaired modern Proof coins found in circulation that would not grade Cameo...
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As do I, DNA. My apologies, I should have clarified my question. I'm wondering about non-impaired, 66-70 range proofs.
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Has anyone ever heard of a modern (last 20 ish years or so) proof that does not have the cameo designation?


Yes

These are called matte proofs


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I think what the OP is asking if anyone has ever seen a non-impaired proof coin that came from a proof set (not any matte proofs like the special issue 94 and 97 Jeffies and the 98 Kennedy) within the last 20 years that would have a "PR" grade (e.g., PR65, PR66, etc., and not an "SP" or "specimen" grade), but lacking a cameo such that the TPGs would not give a CAM, DCAM, or UCAM desigation to it.

My guess is that it's possible, but highly unlikely. Looking at numismedia.com, their price listings for proof lincoln cents list 1978 and later coins with only a "Deep Cameo" designation and list all 1971 and later with at least a "Cameo" designation. So it's almost as numismedia thinks such coins don't exist.

Brings up an interesting question whether such a coin without a cameo designation would be considered a rarity and bring a premium.
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Brings up an interesting question whether such a coin without a cameo designation would be considered a rarity and bring a premium.


Would that designation then be PF66 UNCAM? LOL
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With a one line question, and no explanation. How would anyone know what
the op is really interested in. Maybe the op does not like Cameo proofs.

We could start guessing .. how about a reverse proof ASE .. it is not cameo ..
or is it ...


IMO .. just because the TPG's decided to give the matte proof coins a SP grade .. does not take away that they are still proofs, matte proofs. The TPG's decided to use the SP grade, so it was easier to see the difference between the matte proofs and the regular proofs. And they didn't all start out using the SP grade, that seems to be how it ended up.
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