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Diedenhofen 50 Pfennig 1917- Does It Have A KM Number?

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I was cherry-picking through my late grandma's coin collection this week, and I came up with some good finds totaling ~$150USD in collector's/bullion value. The most interesting find that I brought home with me is this small Zinc (?) octagonal token that appears to be Notgeld.

Not having much experience in notgeld, I turn to the community. I've searched through Krause's Standard Catalogs (both World and German), and can't seem to find this anywhere that seems plausible (Lorraine, Metz, etc.)

The coin below is identical to the one in my possession. The only identification that I have been able to find is "Funck 93.1a" or "Funck 93.1b".

Does this coin have a KM number?

Thanks!

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No. The Krause cataloges do not include German notgeld (if they did, the 20th century book would be twice as big as it currently is).
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Hi Bob, I just ended up with a massive Notgeld collection that I've been researching, from my research the most commonly used numbers in English are Lamb numbers, from a guide published in the 1960's- I just tracked down a copy of the guide that I ordered today, I can look it up for you when I get the book and get you the L number for that coin
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Sap- I knew that that was the case for paper money, but I wasn't sure about coins. Thanks for the clarification!
Jdmern- That would be much appreciated- thank you!
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The Funck numbers, by the way, refer to this German language catalog:
http://www.gietl-verlag.de/die-deut...heinung.html

Walter Funck started it in 1927; the editors today are Ralf Müller and Wolfgang Peltzer. The current edition is from late 2012. Diedenhofen (today Thionville, Lorraine) issued such notgeld, but apparently some pieces are Röttinger "copies". (In 1923 the coin dealer Bruno Röttinger had lots of notgeld pieces made, partly fantasy pieces, partly reproductions of actual pieces.)

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Indeed german notgeld
A site that gives me a lot of information is this : http://www.joelscoins.com/notgeld/notgeldger1.htm
I have a good collection of notgeld, and by the looks I think this is a real one.
The Funck catalogue is the best for notgeld coins
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Hi Bob,

Just got the Lamb catalog from 1966, the Lamb number is 90.1, also, it looks like this is a pretty scarce type, it was worth $7.50 almost 50 years ago!

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