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This post was originally in How far back can we go? Second Edition! https://goccf.com/t/161525&whichpage=42Moved here to clean up that thread. Sorry to everyone for the Wall of text, moving into the mid-war years I'll have less and less to add for coins and stories. To sum up: Hitler was a Stupid Idiot, but not entirely stupid. For 1938 I had wanted to show some of my Pre-war US made Philippines silver to display the consistency with post war coins. The US mint simply moth balled the dies for the Centavos and Pesos. But my coins are all nasty looking and I came up with a better way to show consistence in empire, something that Hitler could not hold for much more than a decade, the 'Thousand Year Reich" lasted only 12. The British empire is slightly older, in 1936 George V died making his first born son the King. The line of succession must not be broken so Edward VIII became King but before any coins could be minted with his face he abdicated and his younger brother took the throne as George VI.   This minor hiccup meant the bust would be out of sequence. As each monarch takes over from the last the image is rotated, left to right. I have left a space for the coin that never was, Edward VIII would have faced right. The ladies do make a good book end on this Half penny 'set', one looking to the future one to the past. Thanks for the Russian coin and the Guernsey penny, we get caught up with Hitler and the allies but forget about the massive devastation in Hitler's Eastern front. The Channel Islands are sometimes over looked as well but they are among the only British territory to be held by the Germans during WWII. Now let us speak no more of WWII The 'Great Depression' and 'Great War' are yet to come  |
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Edward VIII was going to break that tradition; he wanted his left profile on coins. George VI went on as if he hadn't broken it.
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Thailand
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Yes it seems very strange that Edward VIII favoured the left profile breaking with tradition (considering he was of a right wing bent). As it happened George VI re-established the tradition with respect to his older *** Edited by Staff | The bad word filter is in place for a reason. Bypassing the filter and making the intended word obvious anyway is completely unacceptable. *** brother who had no thought of duty.
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One of the points in my mental wantlist is "a coin in the name of Edward VIII".
As Edward VIII didn't get an official bust/profile approved, there were no official coins with his face on it (there were a few patterns made, but they are very rare).
However, some of the colonial issues didn't include the king's face in the design (only the name, title etc), so there was no problem in issuing coins with Edward VIII's name on them despite the nonexistent profile. Therefore, quite a decent amount of coins of British colonies dated 1936 (most, but not all, of them holed/ring-shaped - the most obvious reason for not having the king's face) had the name of Edward VIII.
Supposedly a full type set, excluding the British patterns, has something like 15 coins - about half of them relatively uncommon Indian princely state issues. I don't know whether anyone had ever completed the set physically (IIRC it includes a very rare gold coin); I did see the supposedly-complete list somewhere on CCF.
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I didn't realize that there was a tradition of the portrait going the opposite way as the predecessor. Learn something new everyday!
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Someone might set me straight but I think it started with George II. I have a George II and a George III half penny and they are opposing.
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Someone might set me straight but I think it started with George II. I have a George II and a George III half penny and they are opposing. If we ignore the coinage of the inter-regnum period and some inconsistencies in the greatly varied world of hammered coinage, the alternating left-right tradition seems to go back quite a bit further. Though one can make an argument for as early as Elizabeth I, it almost certainly had begun in earnest by the reign of James II. Elizabeth I: Left James I: Right Charles I: Left Charles II: Right on milled silver coinage, Left on milled copper and some hammered silver) James II: Left William & Mary/William III: Right Anne: Left George I: Right and so on... |
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Palestine issued a crown with his portrait on it.. you could always get one of these.  |
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 Australia
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No coins of Edward VIII were issued featuring his portrait, from any of the dominions and colonies of the Empire. Several countries issued coins featuring his name, but not his portrait. Xshift's "coin" is a fantasy pattern, issued long after 1936; this particular piece dates from the 1984 Lobel series, which also includes "coins" "from" every single coin-issuing country that was in the Empire in 1936.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Right.. sorry, should have added those details. I knew it was issued after, but was under the impression it was actually issued by Palestine (for whatever odd reason they would do so). Thanks, Sap  |
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Canada
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Here are some modern Palestinian fantasies:  In real life, the Jordanian dinar and Israeli new shekel can be found in the West Bank (with a not-so-surprise appearance by the Egyptian pound in Gaza). Not sure what is used in the third disputed bit, the Golan Heights (since not many people live there). |
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United States
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Not much use for Dinars Shekels and Pounds when lead coins are flying around. Great history here I'm glad I started this spur, Thanks All! |
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