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Classic Commemoratives In Original Holder

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How common is it to find classic commems in their original holders? And what sort of premium does that bring, if any? I ran across a Cincinnati set in the original black holder. I can't fathom that many sets have remained intact over the years and I am thinking about purchasing, but I am not sure what sort of premium the holder is worth.
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How common? Not very. I never seen have seen one.
Premium? That is the $64,000 question.
Best thing to do is to learn the prices with the holder. Then use your judgement.
A few dollars extra would be ok.
Some collectors appreciate originality.
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As with anything else in the hobby, condition and scarcity are the key here, but they can bring a pretty big premium. There is a market for the holders and envelopes even without the coins in them. There was recently a bunch of them on ebay that brought anywhere from about $50 to a few hundred - and this was all WITHOUT the coins. I dont actually collect them, so I can't tell you what is worth what, but I've noticed them here and there at shows or on ebay and I'm always amazed at how much people are willing to pay for these old holders.
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As I'm sure you've already figured out, the original holders are far more scarce than the coins themselves. For many of the coins, the number of surviving original paper holders is less than 100. There were several issues that used a black leatherette holder, the Cincinnati was one of them. These sturdier holders appear to have a better survival rate.

The Cincinnati holder comes in two versions. The first features a notarized certificate on the back; these holders were used for the first 200 PDS sets of Cincinnati half-dollars struck. The same black holder, but without the notarization, was used for distribution of subsequent sets. The Cincinnati holders are almost identical to the holders used for distribution of the Cleveland Exposition half-dollars; the distribution of both issues was handled by the same man â€" Thomas G. Melish.

I have written about these holders here on CCF, maybe the following links will be of interest: https://goccf.com/t/116786, https://goccf.com/t/116328 and https://goccf.com/t/128834.

Regarding pricing, you should expect to pay a premium of $100 at the lower end and up to $200-$400 for notarized Cincinnati holders in nice shape. Non-notarized holders often sell in the range of $75 to $150 depending on condition. You might be able to find them for less and you might find dealers asking for more, but those ranges should at least give you an idea of the current market. (One note, I've seen a recent rise in prices being paid for these holders so the prices quoted may be on the lower end of today's scale.)

Hope that helps!

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Wow. Awesome info. Thanks.

I figure the best time to buy something you have never seen is when you see it. I sprang for it. Holder is in great shape and the coins look 100% original. I paid a bit of a premium for the holder, I didn't get a great deal but we will see once the coins are in hand.
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