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A New Classic US Commemorative Collecting Approach

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The June 1955 issue of the The Numismatist, the American Numismatic Association's official publication, featured an article by Harold E. Baker titled "Forty-Eight to Seventy-Three." [The article is also available as a reprint that was sponsored by Sol Kaplan.]

The humorous article chronicles the journey that the author and his young son took in their quest to assemble a complete date and mint mark set of US commemorative half-dollars. It includes chuckle-worthy accounts of missed opportunities, budget constraints, budget "solutions" and the differing perspectives a husband and wife can hold when it comes to coins. I would recommend that all coin collectors seek out the piece regardless of their collecting focus.

While the piece is definitely a fun read it also introduces an interesting approach to assembling a set of classic-era commemorative coins.

The author suggests that between the standard 48-piece set of commemorative half-dollars and the full 142-piece set of the same, there exists a collecting goal that offers the best of both worlds. Namely, a set that features a coin of every type represented by an example from each mint at which it was struck. For example, in such a set, a collector would need a three-coin P-D-S set of 1936 Columbia, SC half-dollars to be considered complete. For the programs that feature issues from multiple mints across multiple years (e.g., the Oregon Trail Memorial half-dollars) a collector would still only need three coins but they could pick and choose from multiple dates to fulfill their P-D-S goal. The author identifies a 73-piece set of half-dollars that would meet this collecting objective.

I connected with the article when I read it for the first time more than a decade ago - I was working on a type set of US commemoratives at the time but was entertaining the idea of expanding my set to include an example of each mint marked coin. Though I wound up deciding to target a 55-piece type set (including the Lafayette Dollar and Isabella Quarter), the idea of extending it to include the various mint marks is still something I consider from time to time.

Were I to pursue such a set, I would have to alter the target list presented by Mr. Baker by one coin. My set would include a 1920 Pilgrim half-dollar as well as a 1921 "Small Date" example, as I consider them to be two collectible varieties of the same type (as with the two varieties of the Alabama, Missouri and Grant half-dollars). Mr. Baker, however, considers the 1920 and 1921 Pilgrim half-dollars to be the same coin.

That small quibble aside, I like Mr. Baker's suggestion for "A type set for the collector in between the collector who can afford a complete set, and the collector who can't afford a complete set but who has an incomplete type set he would like to enlarge to a more complete type set even if it takes every cent he has." I may yet find myself on the path followed by Harold and his son nearly 60 years ago!

What say you?


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My set would include a 1920 Pilgrim half-dollar as well as a 1921 "Small Date" example, as I consider them to be two collectible varieties of the same

The 1921 date is in the field on obverse. I have that one in my 7070.
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Very interesting concept commems ... Mr. Baker's proposed 73 coin set does indeed seem to be a nice compromise for a 'more complete' set the entire 142 half dollars.

Adopting this approach would certainly address the biggest reason why I am not pursuing the complete set ... I simply have no collecting interest in assembling the coins in the multiple date/mm types ... truly ... 15 Arkansas?

However ... I can get my head potentially wrapped around 3 Arkansas ... as suggested by Mr. Baker.

Interestingly, I have made an exception for the Oregon Trail sub-series as I am slowly assembling the 14 coins that comprise this sub-series in high gem MS state (MS66 to MS68) ... the visual aesthetic of this coin is the driver for me.


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Though I wound up deciding to target a 55-piece type set


I seem to recall this discussion a while ago ... am I correct in my recollection that the additional five in your target set are:

Alabama 2x2, Missouri 2x4, Grant Star, 1921 Pilgrim and Norse Medal?

Appreciate the interesting post commems ... it will cause me to do some new thinking about my type set makeup.

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I approve. At the very least, there should be allowance in a type set to get a Grant star/no-star, Alabama 2x2/plain, Missouri 2*4/plain. I could certainly buy into the idea of a type set having 1 of each mintmark. (In my type sets I try to get a mintmark when possible, since that's part of the design that you want to show off).

The problem with the complete set is having 40 BTW/Washington-Carvers.
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I seem to recall this discussion a while ago ... am I correct in my recollection that the additional five in your target set are:

Alabama 2x2, Missouri 2x4, Grant Star, 1921 Pilgrim and Norse Medal?


You recalled four out of five! Very impressive!

In addition to the half-dollar varieties you listed, I also include an example of the Small "1934" Boone half-dollar as a second variety of the type in my set.

Of course, as I've written here on CCF, I do consider the Norse medals a "must have" for a collector of the classic US commemorative series!





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