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Please Grade My 1917 Type 1 SLQ

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 Posted 01/14/2014  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This caused me to step back and look a little deeper. So, off to Heritage I went, and I've probably looked at 75 different Type One 1917-P's over the night, from AU to Top Pop MS67FH's.

Not_one had horizontal lines this strong. Not one. Not even close. Further, the (viewer's) left-side set consistently had one stripe with a pronounced "hump," even with the base of the second star below "IN GOD" and Liberty's knee. The coin shown here doesn't have that hump.

Hate to say it, but I think D0ubl3Eagle has something here.
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 Posted 01/14/2014  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Upper AU. That coin is AWESOME!
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 Posted 01/14/2014  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-55.
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 Posted 01/14/2014  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well the coin is in the mail, I think I'm going to send it back with all this information it seems pretty obvious that it's a counterfeit. I will look at it once it comes to my door, take some pictures to share with you guys and make a visit to my local coin dealer to see what he says. The seller assured me his coins are good and he will take it back if I don't want it. I would like to share his ebay add if he tries to stiff me so all can avoid him. But I'm confident he will make it right. I'm happy I joined this forum! Seems to be very helpful . Thanks dOubl3eagle!
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 Posted 01/16/2014  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After asking to make sure it was alright to post this, here is a scan of the page that I was referring to.

Please-Grade-My-1917-Type-1-SLQ
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 Posted 01/16/2014  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep sure looks like my coin! Dam
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Just received the coin, now that I have in hand and looked at it closer. I'm inclined to say its real. I haven't weighed it yet, going to my local coin dealer for that and to see what he says. But it matches up with all the real ones graded and not. Only the lines are different in that they are bolder. The coin has deffenetly been cleaned at some point. If it's fake, it's a real good one.
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 Posted 01/21/2014  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uchihadesendent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say au-50
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 Posted 01/21/2014  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try to be mindful and avoid being in denial.
The documentation is right in front of you.
I understand because the coin is beautiful but...

Conversely if you like it keep it, people pay a lot for henning nickels
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 Posted 01/26/2014  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just got my money back! Yippee!
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Good to hear that! Though as mentioned the "Henning nickels" are a collectible in their own right, a counterfeit coin should never be sold without caveats that is what it is. I know in the EAC world electrotypes of early cents can and do bring some hefty prices. $400-600 for a quality chain cent, though nowhere near the $20K or more for a real one in better than fine quality.

So glad you were able to get your money back and weren't stuck with a bad and illegal coin!

A link to the Henning Nickels if your curious: http://www.numismaticenquirer.com/T...0Nickel.html
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