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Can't Identify This Coin, Or Whatever It Is

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 Posted 01/17/2014  1:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kraftwerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey,

I've just found this thing in our basement (Germany), and this doesn't look like it belongs to this country. My father is from Turkey, and, as you may already expect, we have a lot of relatives. I think that anyone of them may have brought this here a long time ago, otherwise I have no idea. I can't ask my father anymore, since he left & there's no contact anymore, so I have to count on you guys - Check it out, tell me if this is anything useful, and if it's maybe valuable:

EDIT: IT'S SILVER, NOT GOLDEN! Sorry if they look golden in the picture, let me add another one

Weight - 27 grams



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 Posted 01/17/2014  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Spanish silver "cob". These are commonly faked but yours looks OK to my untrained eyes.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kraftwerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It really seems to be something spanish, but I couldn't find anything which looks 100% the same. Pretty strange. I'll just wait for more answers.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As nalaberong says, it looks like a Spanish cob coin. The weight would be about right for an 8 Real coin (a 'Piece of Eight' of Pirates of the Caribbean fame!)

But it's not something I know much about so you'll need to wait for someone else to confirm if it's real (LOL) and if so, which mint and date it might be.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kraftwerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really think it's a fake, since the "lions" more look like stuffed animals than lions, if I compare them to all the other coins I've checked out now. But I'm not a professional, heck no. I have no experience with coins at all, just found this thing and now I try to get some informations about it. So yeah, I'll have to wait for a professional. I went through the internet for hours now, and I saw at least 50 coins which looked 90% the same, but something was different again. darn this is hard.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is spanish, not fake
I'll try to find the correct refference

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 Posted 01/17/2014  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is spanish, 8 reales,propably 1601-1621
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 Posted 01/17/2014  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kraftwerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure? Check the picture you've posted again, there's some kind of a 2nd small shield emblem on the upper middle part of the big shield, but mine only has 1 small shield emblem on the lower part of the shield. I have no experience with this, so I can't tell if that means something.

I have refined both of the pictures now, so everything is more visible:



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EDIT: Alright, I think I found the coin:
http://sunkentreasure.com/gbroyal.htm
Lot 933 (Scroll down a bit)
Bolivia "Royal" 8 Reales, 1630-P-T (Potosi). WR-4; KM-R19a. 26.99 grams. Philip IV, 1621-1665

It says "Estimated Value $15,000 - 20,000", which is pretty much not true. What is it worth?
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 Posted 01/18/2014  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, you are right Kraftwerk.
Here you find the arms of Spain : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A...68-1700).svg
If you find an extra shield in this spanish shield, than you can identify the region where the coin is made for
Each symbol on the shield represents a region where that the spanish king ruled
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