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Collecting Large Cents Advice?

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 Posted 01/20/2014  12:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add paymehigher to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am interested in starting a collection of large cents, and I was wondering if you had any advice to impart upon me. :D Any online sites that have good deals on large cents? I have around a $100/month budget for this collection. Should I get lower grade coins or save up for nicer examples?
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 Posted 01/20/2014  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It all depends on what you want to do. I got my first (and only) US Large Cent about 10 years ago for $15 in VF...it's worth about $30 now. Prices have gone up on them. Some heavily circulated large cents do look nice, but I just seem to stare enviously at the high grade red cents when I see pictures of them online. Such beautiful coins.

For $100 a month budget, I'd think you could get 4-6 good higher grade cents a year (later years), or around 1-2 (2 if you're lucky) of the earlier ones in higher grades. However, there's nothing wrong with having a nice amount of "whatever" grade coppers. You should see my little hoard of LWC's and IHC's. Copper is nice.
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My advice for folks starting out collecting Large Cents is to make their first expense membership in EAC. Look here: http://www.eacs.org/ The Club publication, Penny-Wise, is an invaluable resource in learning about old copper, plus you will be able to purchase those research books you'll want at significant discounts directly from the authors. (even get then autographed)

On condition, a old copper lover will appreciate the coins for what they are, a lesson in history and commerce. Buy what you love, look for clean surfaces first. Many people, including me, are happy with a date set. Starting to pursue a variety set will require financial expenses far beyond your budget.

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Buy the books first! (Sheldon,Newcomb, Grellman, Noyes etc..). Learn The series before you buy. I would go for quality over quantity....this is not a race, take as long as you need to get the examples YOU like. This, imo, is a LONG HAUL kind of collection. If you want to collect by variety this is a very frustrating set without patience. If you just want a date set then just buy the best example you can find without problems. The middle and especially late dates can be had for reasonable prices......with patience.

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Should I get lower grade coins or save up for nicer examples?

This is a double sided question.
How well do you know large cents?
Can you justify the cost versus knowing current market value?
In the long run why buy lower when it will stay lower.
Get the best coin you can afford and go from there.IMHO
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I agree with what Amida17 said. Study the series..know the series. This is key to your collection.
Quality over quantity big time. Many Large Cents have corrosion and/or have been recolored.
Sometimes it's hard to tell an original surface but over time, you will.
Join EAC..well worth it.
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spend the first $100 on a book. Then you can cherry pick the rarer varieties on ebay for $30 a pop. otherwise you'd spend $40 that the same but 'already attributed' coins. The book will pay for itself in a year.
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My advice for folks starting out collecting Large Cents is to make their first expense membership in EAC.


While I'm an EAC member, myself, I humbly disagree with this suggestion. For a newbie copper collector, the EAC material. articles, nomenclature, etc. can be overwhelming and potentially discouraging in the process.

Simply buy some recommended books and acquire eye-appealing coins with problem-free planchets for starters. By focusing on the more common, later dates first, one can aquire a few decent specimens a month and still have some money to apply for books; this, on a $100 monthly budget.

Attend area shows, join a local coin club or two and network with fellow enthusiasts in the process. Peruse and study the auction archives for companies like Stack's, Heritage and Goldberg.
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paymehigher.

Buy the book(s) first is really good advice! Along with specialty large cent books be sure to have a RedBook to look through. It will have the major varieties and a "general" price guide and pictures to guide you what you feel you are attracted to.

Also, feel free to make a few low end purchases to get your feet wet. See which coins speak to you. Many may disagree with this, but I feel that I have learned a lot from buying a few low end and even damaged coins. Of course I am now looking for higher end coins:D
Most important; have fun!

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Exoguy's advice is right on the money! And, don't waste money on junk LC's.
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Personally I had this kinda problem when I put together my 20th and 21st century type set, and the way that I started was a good grade coin. I'm all about detail so for me usually had to pay a little more, but as time has gone on I've bought the same coins in a better grade and sold the lower grade coins.
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as far as your personal collection go for at least vf-xf coins as they are not that pricey and you can see the details well. It is helpful I think to dabble with buying and reselling some of the lower priced coins. If you do it right you can add to that $100 monthly budget and get a good feel for what you should pay for the nicer ones.
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i agree with jerryc39 its all about timing and getting the right grades at the right time
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I too agree with ExoGuy. I started with the later braided hair series of large cents, they can be had in better shape for lower prices than the earlier ones. This was just to get my feet wet and to learn a little without dropping large amounts of money. I collected for over a year before joining EAC, this gave me enough time to learn the ropes so that I could understand what I was reading in the EAC publications. As far as books, I would hold off on buying them until you know for sure you want to collect large cents beyond a date set (the books aren't exactly budget friendly), the number of varieties is overwhelming and some of the books cover each and every minute detail (not helpful to beginners imo). I suggest you start with a late date set, explore the series, figure out what you want to collect within the series then make your book purchase before jumping into nicer, harder to find varieties/dates. I went this route with US Half Cents and it has worked well for me.
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I have been looking for a large cent to go in my type set for a long time now. Sadly all the ones I have seen have some kind of damage. There are a ton of large cents that have been holed, bent, cleaned, and who knows what else. It takes time, but you should not pay for junk.
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My advice about collecting Large Cents is as follows: DON'T DO IT. To make it easy I started collecting Large Cents but only a year only set. It's in a Whitman Classic Album. AFter many years now it still needs about 7 coins. their prices can go up to more than the car I use to get to a coin show. If you try for a complete set, be prepared to spend a few million dollars and still not have them all. A bit of an exageration but they do get expensive.
At one coin show there is a dealer that had about 4 tables of mostly all Large Cents. Other dealers told me he is rather famous for that. Supposedly has millions of dollars tied up in them. One dealer I've purchased some from told me he has been trying to get a complete set of those for himself for over 30 years now. If you look up all the varieties people claim there is, you could end up spending the rest of your life looking for them all.
Might be easier to just make your own.
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