Mexican War Of Independence: Lva Or Avt Counterstamp

Mat & Realeswatcher -

What is also interesting gentleman the Gomez coin now in my collection is of the same obverse/reverse dies as this piece ... HMMMM ... Gomez is on the mailing list ... I wonder what he is thinking right now? ... and the cataloger did not seem compelled to indicate anything about the date and its retrograde nature ... does the State of Texas consider this piece a common occurrence not requiring any mention of this anomaly? Is it an anomaly to this cataloguer?

Texas is Angel's mailing address ... in the U.S..

Carlos, you said




...which is why the Osorno counterstamp on Colonial 1,2, and 8 Reales is such a mystery to me. There you have one counterstamp that does not make sense. Why would an Insurgent put his counterstamp on a good Mexico City Colonial mint issue - nobody would have doubted its good standing, even coming from the "enemy".

Maybe the inverted date just got overlooked in the past on what appears to be a rather crudely made batch of these LVO coins. Most type collectors (and I am talking from own experience here) would be looking for a better struck example. There is so much variety in the series that nobody really investigated them. The only variety I am aware of having been noted is the mule of the Royal shield with the earlier mountains side (which, incidentially, was sold by the same company now auctioning our inverted 1811).

Its very common and early = TIXTLA

No proof but I think the evidence is pointing to here that this stamp is almost always seen associated with the Morelos counterstamp(s). Its early also ... the dot is interesting but what does LVA match up to?

Morelos soon showed himself to be a talented strategist, and became one of the greatest revolutionary military commanders of the war. In his first nine months, he won 22 victories, annihilating the armies of three Spanish royalist leaders and dominating almost all of what is now the state of Guerrero. In December, he captured Acapulco for the first time, except for the fortress of San Diego. Spanish reinforcements forced him to raise the siege in January. By quick marches, he was able to capture most of the Spanish possessions on the Pacific coast of what are now Michoacán and Guerrero. On May 24, 1811 he occupied Chilpancingo and on May 26 he took Tixtla.