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Proof Characteristic Question For US Large Cents

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 Posted 01/25/2014  12:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hflirn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am stepping into the deep waters of starting a Large Cent collection. I have always been into error coins of some type or another and I find the Large Cent has many varieties involved AND eye appeal to go along with them. I hope nobody took that as me calling Large Cents as errors lol!I would like to have a proof or two so my question is this. Do all the same proof rules apply for Large Cents if I were to be so lucky to come across one away from an auction? Do only Proofs have a square rim? Did they have proof like business strikes? I am going to pick up a few books here in the next few days but thought I'd see what info was out there from individuals that have a head start in the field
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Nowhere near an expert, but I too am starting down the road of EAC collecting. Looking at Heritage it looks like it takes around $4K+ to start playing with Proof large cents. The later dates come up for sale fairly frequently on their auctions, I've only seen a few at coin shows over the years, and they always intrigued me, but cost prohibitive to me to complete a purchase on one. You might want to check out Breen's encyclopedia of US Large Cents, you can read it for free online here:
http://www.pcgs.com/books/earlycents (not much on proofs but still a great book)!
and
http://www.pcgs.com/books/breen-proofs (see Chapter four for the more likely proof subjects you search)

Can't answer your questions as to rims, I do know the middle dates have a few coins slabbed as SP or specimen strikes, as do a very few early dates. Some of the EACers here will chime in on this they have a lot more experience I'm sure. In the meantime hope my links point you in the right direction!
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 Posted 01/25/2014  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uchihadesendent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
woah good luck on starting that collection
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Skim through the catalog of Dan Holmes late dates, he had about 24 of them. It will let you get some good close up images of proof large cents.

http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=62
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The Holmes catalogs are some of the best lower cost references out there with excellent photos, and much cheaper than the Noyes books at $100 to $300 a pop. Thankfully Goldberg has them all up for viewing online!
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Thanks everyone! The Goldberg site is @#$ amazing...and intimidating lol! I have 5 so far. Actually I traded some baseball cards for them from a kid I can't even remember his name 20 yrs ago. A 29, 46, 48, 51, and 54 if my memory serves me correct. Its a start. Now to get some books and try to figure some stuff out.
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For middle dates I'd recommend John Wright's "The Cent Book" amazing book with simply gorgeous pictures along with wonderful and helpful descriptions. The later dates after 1839 can be tough for me to attribute especially if the coins are under VF/EF grade. I know Noyes has his new book on the later dates available from Charles Davis Numismatic books, other than that the other on is the Grellman - Reiver US Cents 1840-1857 book, both of them are expensive. Links for both authors are on the ww.eacs.org page under resources.

Big thumbs up on Goldberg's site for large cents, also Heritage (sign up for a free account) is very good http://www.ha.com look for the Walter J. Husak collection of large cents in the archives.

Now you've started down the rabbit hole!
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 Posted 01/27/2014  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I have 5 so far

Large cents, or proof large cents?
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Well Too be honest I don't know. The 44,46,and 48 are well defined. I highly doubt I grabbed some proofs as an 11 year old but stranger things have happened I guess. I'll put pics up tomorrow
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