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United States
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I got this cool lowball Peace dollar from my LCS. They listed it as a 1921. But on close inspection it looks like there is a little line that makes it look like a 4 vs. 1 on the last digit of the date. I specialize in Standing Liberty Qtrs and I know there are some diagnostics that can be applied to determine if you have a 1916 vs. 1917 qtr. Is there anything like that for this particular date? I really like the coin and think it is cool but I'd like to make sure I know what year it is. Also would you consider the grade of this coin Poor or Fair?    |
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Valued Member
United States
256 Posts |
I think it is a 1924, the last number is too wide to be a 1
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Canada
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 Looks like a 1924 |
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Id give it a po1. If it gets worn any more you wouldnt be able to tell the date anymore.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
4911 Posts |
Yup definitely 1924
Feel free to call me Will.
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Valued Member
Canada
470 Posts |
Definitely a 1924, unfortunately the grade has been worn off completely.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1261 Posts |
but are there any diagnostics to look for with 1921 Peace dollars? I can't rely on simply the strike because it is so worn. |
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United States
256 Posts |
All 1921 Peace dollars were struck in High Relief, but I don't think you can tell on this one because it's so worn |
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United States
1584 Posts |
I see a 1924. Too much wear to even consider diags. Still a nice lowball coin.
PCGS lists this coin at $50 in PO1.
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United States
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I would agree that the 1 looks like a 4, but that being said. The 1921's , as was said, were struck in high relief, causing the fields to be almost concave, causing excessive wear to the devices before the fields. The reverse rays, down by the eagles mound, sure look high relief to me. Also , in some 1921's the leaves and branch on the reverse were different than on later years. Put this reverse next to a picture of a later year reverse and compare the mound, the rays and the branch. I wouldn't be to quick to write this off as not a 1921. Since this coin's design was based on a medal and the surprise mintage led people to believe that this was going to be a short term, more commemorative, coin, many people put these away as souvenir/keepsake pieces. Some people think that a honestly worn 1921 Peace dollar is the rarest of the whole series. |
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I have to agree with Denco7. I spent the better part of 2 hours comparing this coin to those I could find, both in my collection and the internet, and I really think this is a 1921. The rays are thicker and different on this coin than other Peace dollars, the position of the last digit - 1 is right for a 1921 (not 1924) and the leaves on the reverse look like those I could find on the internet. I think it's a 1921. |
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United States
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Even though the last digit does look like a 4, I think it's a 1921. The relief looks much higher than other Peace dollars with a similar amount of wear. The spikes on top of her head look thicker than on later Peace dollars. I am going to say it grades FR-2 but not by much. I think the rim on the obverse may hold it back from the lowest grade. It is worn flat but looks mostly complete. If more of it was wearing into the fields, it would probably get PO-1. |
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I'm in agreement with the last two posters, for the same reasons. 1921 rays are significantly thicker, and in this grade a newer model Peace would still show rays yet thinner than we see them here. The ray piercing the "E" would be a slam dunk, if visible, as it's noticeably shorter.
I ran down a PCGS P01, and based on that example I think this one's FR-2.
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I politely suggest that a few photographs from my collection might help ... along with a bit of explanation.  The OP coin is a 1921 Peace dollar with a technical grade of FR02 ... unequivocal in that assessment and certain of the facts. As correctly stated above ... the 1921 Peace dollar was the only example in the 24 coin series to be struck in high relief ... as such the diagnostics in well worn state are well known ... primary pick-up-point is the thickness of the tiara above Ms. Liberty head. Alas for the OP ... these diagnostics are well known to the TPG and the only certified PO01 1921 Peace that I know of are completely dateless. A few photos of true PCGS certified 1921 lowballs from my collection ... not stealing the OP thread but hopefully sharing ... 1921 Peace dollar ... PCGS PO01 There are plenty of FR02 examples of this coin out there ... I'm having some issue with the forum allowing a new photo ... being told that I am not the poster ... will hopefully update later. David Why can I not add a photo of my FR02? Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.artEdited by nickelsearcher
01/26/2014 7:21 pm
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I have no idea why it's not working for you. Let it be for a moment and revisit - you've got 24 hours - perhaps a software update is in progress.
Added: I think your coin is a good illustration of why some are so sure of the OP's coin.
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