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Opinions On Grant With Star?

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Contemplating this grant purchase but being a raw coin I thought I'd get some opinions on it, thanks in advance!

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Please tell us source and whether you have the coin in hand ... are you able to get an accurate weight and check the known counterfeit pick-up-points?

I do not see any obvious problems in your photos ... appears to be an AU example ... but this is a highly faked coin and wish to see your next addition be a success.

By photo ... I am going genuine AU53

David

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 Posted 01/26/2014  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks cleaned from the photos. There are some die clashes that should be visible in a genuine star coin that I don't see in yours (though it could just be the photos). There should be a clash between D and O in DOLLAR, to the left of the G in GRANT and of the front his tie or ascot.
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Currently on ebay so I'm kinda skeptical
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Here we go, I've circled the spots where the clash should be visible. You should see a raised defect in these 3 areas.

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There are some die clashes that should be visible in a genuine star coin

While it's true that most Grant w/ Star half-dollars show die clashes, there were also coins struck before the die clash occurred - not all genuine coins show a die clash.


From the images, the coin looks to be a genuine example to my eyes. If the weight checks out, I would say that the coin is a nice AU example.



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Decisions decisions lol
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Let us know what you decide ... I'm still going with AU53/55 and genuine.

I see no evidence of cleaning in the photos ... potential hair lines on the obverse above the "ES" of "ULYSSES" .. but I'm not sure about that ... and it would not stop me from an in-hand inspection.

If it has a return privilege and the price is right ... then I suggest you consider the purchase.

We would of course enjoy viewing photos of the coin once in hand ... should you decide to acquire this example.

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Decided to pass on the coin, the seller only had a 13 selling transactions and stated no returns. My gut just said no so I let it go. I did keep an eye on it and looks like it sold for $550.15 though.
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While it's true that most Grant w/ Star half-dollars show die clashes, there were also coins struck before the die clash occurred - not all genuine coins show a die clash.
Have you seen any, Commems? My books say there are extremely few without with die clash.

There are many Grants that have had a star added. I was also reading that the genuine star is asymmetrical.

All that reading makes me want a star variety now!
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Have you seen any, Commems?

Yes, via images in a number of auction catalogs over the years. Half-dollars with the die clash marks are clearly in the majority, however.


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 Posted 01/27/2014  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man, I was content without this variety until this thread got going. I blame you, railgrinder!! And your accomplice, commems!

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 Posted 01/27/2014  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not to hijack the thread, but here are my two Grant half-dollars. The ball's in your court Specksynder!


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 Posted 01/28/2014  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Not Mint to Be to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Grants Commems. My two Grants are only 64 & 62 grading points "below" yours. :)
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ooooh! the obverse fields on the MS-66!
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