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1904-O Morgan.. I Say AU-58..?

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I also noticed it has continuous little die cracks connecting all throughout USOF.. I can't seem to match it up to any vams as of yet for this year but figured I would post it and get some ideas.



1904-O-Morgan..-I-Say-AU-58..?

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 Posted 01/30/2014  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, but I think I see a hint of old cleaning near the bottom of the bust
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 Posted 01/30/2014  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chettieyy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you referring to the small spot right below the point of the bust or am I looking at the wrong spot?
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The high points over the eye and point of the neck don't looked rubbed to me. I say a terribly weak strike, maybe a light planchet or both. MS62 details, coin probably had an old dip.
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I would say more like AU50.
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1904-O has some terrible strike issues. I think MS62 for this one.
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Thank you for all the opinions guys and gals.. I do appreciate it.. I forgot that the "o" strikes were graded a bit more on the lenient side if you will do to their weak strikes.

I will be throwing up quite a few more in this section and would really like to learn as much as possible about grading them as well as VAM attribution.. I am constantly reading but sometimes its easier to understand when pointed out from a different persons standpoint rather then a book when it comes to identification markers and so on.. thanks again.
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Ok, I see the weak strike now. Must've just fooled my eyes.
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I wouldn't be surprised if I thought this one Mint State in-hand. It's a classic weak New Orleans strike. The obverse toning looks recent; maybe the result of a dip recovery.
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Typical O Morgan weak strike, MS-61.
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I'm not saying its not possible but I know this coins history as it sat in my grandfathers Whitman folder for the last 30 yrs and I know he never cleaned any coins..hell not even an acetone dip.. not to say it wasn't done before he got it but I know how long it sat while he had it is all.


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I wouldn't be surprised if I thought this one Mint State in-hand. It's a classic weak New Orleans strike. The obverse toning looks recent; maybe the result of a dip recovery
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Could very well be MS, they are notorious for weak strikes. Just as contrast here's my graded MS63 04-O.

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I've got a VAM 4B in mint state that is just as flat as the OP coin. I've even seen worse than this one.
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I've even seen worse than this one.


Like this:

1904-O-Morgan..-I-Say-AU-58..?

1904-O-Morgan..-I-Say-AU-58..?

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That's actually a little worse than what I'm remembering. That reverse is dismal...
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MS-62.
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