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Don't know if this has been addressed but is the ATB issue going to have a territory issue like the State issues had?
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Yes they will, El Yunque National Park in Puerto Rico has already been done and the rest of the territories will follow in up coming years.
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Forgot about that. So they are interspersing the territories within the states. Wonder what ATB coin they will be doing for the District of Columbia?
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They will be doing most of them the last three years.

Washington DC....2017......will be Frederick Douglass National Historic Site

Guam, Mariana Is.... 2019.

Am.Samoa, U.S. Virgin Ils.... 2020
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I was looking over an article in Coin Week online (dated Oct 9, 2015), about CCAP approval of a design for the 2017 Fredrick Douglas National Historic Site. Apparently, the approved design is an image of the great orator himself, rather than the Historical Site. That seems like a departure from the essence of the series which was meant to depict historic and important destinations within the US and her territories. Shouldn't this coin be a picture of the site, rather than the man for whom it is named? Jack
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Shouldn't this coin be a picture of the site, rather than the man for whom it is named?

Look at Saratoga, which was just released. While it doesn't depict anyone specific, it also doesn't represent the park itself.

This brings up another question....So how did they choose the order of the ATB Quarters? With the States/Territories it was clearly in the order that they became States/Territories. I don't recall reading any logic behind the order of the ATBs.
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If I recall correctly, the ATB's are being released in order that the site/place became a national park.

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Not sure that's it. For instance...

#4 Grand Canyon est. February 26, 1919
#8 Olympic Park est. June 29, 1938
#14 Hawai'i Volcanoes est August 1, 1916
#11 El Yunque was est. January 17, 1903

Those "established" dates were taken from Wiki, so maybe there's another method of dating them.
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It is when they were established as a national site, not necessarily when they became a national park.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameri...ful_Quarters
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C-Knot - Point taken. Both issues seem to me, to be out of whack with the original intent:

"There will be five new reverse designs each year (one in 2021) each depicting a national park or national site (one from each state, the federal district, and each territory). The program is authorized by the America's Beautiful National Parks Quarter Dollar Coin Act of 2008." (Wickipedia)

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Was curious ... So went and pulled out my National parks Dansco album.
The album has information pages, between the coin pages.

If their information is correct, the order of the coin releases seem to
by which park was given protection status.

For example, Hot Springs - Andrew Jackson established the Hot Springs
site as a special reservation to protect the thermal springs. In 1832.

Grand Cayon established as a forest reserve on February 20, 1893.

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I think this quote from the America's Beautiful National Parks Quarter Dollar Coin Act of 2008 backs up what both Jbuck, and GR58 have said:

"(F) Prohibition on certain representations.--
No head and shoulders portrait or bust of any person,
living or dead, no portrait of a living person, and no outline or map of a State may be included in the design on the reverse of any quarter dollar under this
subsection.
``(4) Issuance of coins.--
(A) Order of issuance.--The quarter dollar coins issued under this subsection bearing designs of national
sites shall be issued in the order in which the sites
selected under paragraph (3) were first established as a
national site."

(apologies for the crazy way this quote transferred to the post). Jack
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Good info... thanks all. Clears up some questions.
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Then there's the Theodore Roosevelt one that shows a generic countryside in the distance and a large image of Roosevelt on a horse in the foreground.

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