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Has anyone ever seen a TPG slab with an MS70 + or star designation? Would that open a new can of worms for an MS71 designation (besides basement slabbers)? |
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Not sure about the * service but for the PCGS + 68 is the highest grade theyll put a + on since the difference between 69 and 70 is already splitting hairs.
XF 45 is the lowest theyll do the + as of now too
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02/01/2014 11:21 pm
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Any TPG company that puts a + on a ms-70 needs a good kick in the butt. |
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I don't think there is such a thing as MS70+ and the first TPG to do it is asking for credibility issues. They would never go there on business strikes..to go there would kill them. swcoin.ecrater.com
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It just doesn't make sense for the TPGs to do that. Quote:Any TPG company that puts a + on a ms-70 needs a good kick in the butt. I completly agree!  Edited by CoinCollector2012
02/02/2014 09:12 am
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That's sort of like saying ∞ + 1 is larger than ∞
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MS is supposed to be perfect, but most gems are wow and some are WOW! Absolutely the best of the dies striking a superior blank in the first few minutes of production.
So what happens when you have a bunch of MS70 coins and one is clearly superior to the other gems?
If you owned it would you be willing to swap it for any other of the MS70 coins?
Would you want a higher price for it? Would you be willing to pay more for it?
A conundrum when the MS70 grade has already been used for gems that are inferior to the GEM.
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So if they did a series of strikes for a coin and one was clearly superior to the others shouldn't that one be an MS70 and the others MS69?
I thought the definition of MS70 was supposed to be a perfect coin, no flaws, no marks, clean and pure. Anything less doesn't rate a 70 and there by definition can''t be anything higher.
So a fingerprint drops a 70 to 69.
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Neither NGC nor PCGS grade anything 69+ or 70+ -- 68+ is the highest plus-grade allowed. People have Google right? Questions like this are answered with about 15 seconds of "search" time in Google and some clicking.  |
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People have Google right? Questions like this are answered with about 15 seconds of "search" time in Google and some clicking And then we can all shut the forum down because there will be no need to have discussions because everyone can just use Google and have a discussion between themselves and their computer monitor about their Google results  |
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brg5658 It is not necessarily about the highest plus designation currently being at 68, it is about the possibility that they may lift that barrier.
Gwedion
What happens when a bunch of coins are properly assessed to be MS70, and then another coin comes along that is even nicer. Can you be certain that coins that me, you, the dealers and the slabbers all rate as perfect will never become better? Maybe a new smelting process will make 6 or 7 9s purity possible and the blanks will be exceptional, plus new die polishing techniques etc could make the 2018 proofs outshine the 2013 proofs.
Just like in 1972 Olga Corbett scored a perfect 10, but in 1976 Nadia Comaniche then did even better, they could only score her 10 as well because there system wouldn't allow for 10+
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So what happens when you have a bunch of MS70 coins and one is clearly superior to the other gems? Obviously all the other ones were over graded and should have only made MS68 - MS69 |
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austrokiwi
There is nothing obvious about it. Are you therefore declaring every MS70 coin currently slabbed as over graded when minting technology improves?
There is unfortunately no retrospective do over to make current MS70 coins become MS69 or 68. Maybe if superior coins are struck they will have to add the MS71 grade. Perhaps in another 30 years they will have to add MS72 if the surfaces of proof coins are more polished than the Hubble Telescopes lens. Nothing says MS70 has to be the ultimate, It isn't exceeding the speed of light or any other impossible barrier.
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Posted 02/01/2014 11:38 pm
