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1828 Half - Is It Real, Cleaned, Grade - Can You Tell?

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I found this online and was wondering if you guys could tell me if it looks cleaned, real and the grade possibly? I have asked the seller for better pictures but still waiting for them.

1828-Half---Is-It-Real,-Cleaned,-Grade---Can-You-Tell?

1828-Half---Is-It-Real,-Cleaned,-Grade---Can-You-Tell?
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 Posted 02/02/2014  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tough call, and this is all tentative.

I'm seeing a coin which ought to have luster left, a high AU at the least. Seems flatly-struck, leading to potentially deceptive indication of wear. The images are too small, and too angled, to form opinions regarding surface originality but I'm cautiously optimistic although the "haze" around the stars is disconcerting.

This one is either a really high-level coin, or one which will leave you saying, "What a shame." It's indicative of the problems with trying to purchase from inconclusive images because the range of potential values amounts to hundreds of dollars. This could be a $100 coin or a $1000 coin.
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 Posted 02/02/2014  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomtom777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I'm worried about wear too and getting a decent grade calculated as this coin the grades are very important in determining price. Hopefully he will send better images.
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Technically it looks AU-50 to me, with flatness on the obverse due to striking. I can't detect hairlines in the coin's fields that would indicate abrasive cleaning, which would be encouraging to me. Unfortunately, you usually can't tell for sure until the coin is in hand.
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 Posted 02/02/2014  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomtom777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, can pretty much only tell in hand.
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If it were me, I would want to take a real close look at the denticles on this coin, also the features on the reverse look a little flat but that could be the angle of the picture. Personally..I wouldn't buy any capped bust coinage without having it in hand unless I was buying it from a trusted source.
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with the previous posts. This coin (from the pictures) appears genuine to me. It appears, again, IMO, to be an EF-45+ coin.

I do suspect a cleaning sometime in its life (the haze around the stars and the date lend me to think this).

I would wait for the follow-on pictures, but this could be a reasonably good deal.
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I suspect a light cleaning somewhere in its past, but that would have to be verified by having it in hand.
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 Posted 02/02/2014  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks ok and AU to me. If the price was right I'd take a chance on it.
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XF-45 or possibly AU-50. However there is a significant risk that this coin has been cleaned.
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I don't think it's cleaned and for grade I think AU-50 is fair.
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 Posted 02/03/2014  06:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say AU, I don't see a cleaning, but...

There looks like something in the field in front of her face.
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 Posted 02/03/2014  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomtom777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It doesn't look cleaned to me but does seem to have more wear than I would like.
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