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1916-D Mercury Dime - Took A Gamble On Ebay

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ebay item 251435235286.

Brand new seller. Description says there are 57 coins including a 1916d, although I only count 55 coins. The photo is practically useless, but it does show a coin in the first and third slots. I think most Mercury dime folders list mint marks in PDS order, but I've seen some listed in PSD order. The auction stated there were 7 inquiries, but none were answered on the listing. Plus the seller doesn't offer refunds.

My question is:
If it turns out the 1916d is actually a 1916s, would that qualify as a SNAD case? General thoughts? Thanks
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to the forum....

Hope it works out for you

I and apparently many others, would not have taken the chance on a new seller. He knows enough to " mention " a 1916 d, but does not take some close up pictures of it, to elicit maximum bids ? Got my fingers crossed, but I don't see this working out.
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The photos are pretty bad indeed, but I'm pretty sure the 16-D slot is the empty one. I'm fairly certain I can make out the D at the empty slot.
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Sorry, but not even close!
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hmmmm
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i noticed he described it as almost complete had 1916 1916D."had" that sounds like to e it is not included in it.
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I don't see the 1916 D. I think he means it had them but he took them out.

I only counted 50 Dimes
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02/02/2014 8:26 pm
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Why take that chance when you're $200 away from a slabbed legit 1916d based on the hammer
Pass is right
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I think the 16-D slot is empty. :(
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Very unclear auction which is characteristic of a new Seller or a scammer playing dumb.

If it does not have a 16-D in it, then the item is clearly SNAD and warrants a return and refund. I hope the buyer paid with a CC as a funding source for added protection.

I once bought a set of Buffalo nickels a long time ago on ebay from a new Seller. It was advertised as complete with 3 legger but no 16/16 or 18 over 17. I calculated my max bid taking into acct the 3 legger was bad. It was. The real money was in all the higher grade coins from 1913 to 1929 .... A lot of those were XF and higher. I did ok and never said a thing about the shaved leg 3 legger to the Seller.

Ya just never know.
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I haven't paid yet. I sent the seller a message asking for clarification.
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Let us know how it turns out. Either way not a good idea to get the 16-D raw off of ebay, it's one of the most faked ones out there. I researched this one for a long time and almost bit a few times on ebay, but in the end got one somewhere else. I got mine raw but from a nationally known trusted dealer - I'd do the same or get one certified if from someone not known. Just my 10 cents...
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100% do not pay. Read his one sale and one other item for sale they both list the missing coins. The fact they state almost complete had 57 including 1916 and 16 d and now has 55 coins is definitely a scam. But protected by the wording. Not woth the risk and complain not to get negative feedback.
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There will not be a fake 16 d in that lot. The wording was put in a way specifically to not be illegal. Again read his one feedback and one item for sale. The sold item went for 12 x face and listed the missing quarters . The item for sal book 2 of Lincoln cents for $20. Worth $5.00 but who cares. The one your talking about has $80.00 worth of silver but do to his clever wording went fo4 x that. And completely different but close wording. And not illegal.
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The conclusion..

The seller verified that there is a 16S but no 16D, apologized for the confusion and agreed to cancel the transaction. I'm positive it was an honest mistake/typo rather than a scam or intent to deceive. I had to explain where to find the "letters" on the coin, so I doubt the seller even knows the key dates or the true value of the collection.
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Quote:
I had to explain where to find the "letters" on the coin, so I doubt the seller even knows the key dates or the true value of the collection.


Glad that you didn't lose any money on the deal and that he was decent about the transaction. Good for you for giving him the benefit of the doubt.

But he knew enough to "call out" the 1916D, so I doubt he was as naive as he profess'
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