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Today's mail brought two 2007 One Ounce ASE's, one for me and one for my wife.

My question is how is this coin different from those purchased from the mint earlier in the year, and were labeled "bullion."

My questions.

1. Is the only difference in the finish?

2. How long has this type of ASE been produced?

3. Although I don't buy coins as investment items, I would be interested to know if this type of ASE will be more, or less, valuable than others?

4. Does the West Point mintmark make this coin special, or do all the 2007 versions have the "W" mintmark.

Thanks for any help.
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The ASE's are all bullion coins even the proofs ,,

You did not mention if your coin is a proof version or Unc version ,,But it appears that the coins bearing the W mint mark have a slightly higher value at the point of striking although the numbers are not available for detailed mintages.

The W mint mark was put on the coins beginning in 2000 , according to the RedBook .

also many of these coins which do not bear a mint mark are also struck at west point ,, there is no division or seperation of the coins total population except for those that bear the W mint mark are counted seperate from the bulk of the mintage .

Long term value is in direct relation to the silver market ,, with some years growing beyond that due to low mintages .

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It's Uncirculated. Thanks for the information.
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In general, Silver American Eagles (usually called SAEs) are worth a buck or two more than the spot silver price (currently around $13). They've been minted since 1986, are 40 mm in diameter, and have 1 troy ounce of .999 fine silver. As you know, they use the "Walking Liberty" design from the half dollars on the obverse. A few years sell for small premiums, like 1986, and I think 1995, 1997, and 1998, and sometimes the current year. The 1996 had the lowest mintage (though still in the millions) and sells for about $50 or more (rip-off, IMHO).

Proofs normally sell in the $25-$30 range and up.

There is a new type of SAE called a "burnished" SAE or something like that, that I think was sold directly through the mint for about $22 or $25. I believe it's supposed to be somewhere between a regular strike and a proof, if that makes any sense (it really doesn't to me). I believe these carry the "W" mint mark. Most are struck at West Point, but don't carry the mint mark. I believe the proofs do.

There is also the 20th Anniversary Silver Eagle Set (2006), which includes a regular strike, a proof, and a reverse proof. The set now sells for $500 to $600 (!!!), and the reverse proof alone is also expensive. Not really sure why the premiums are so high - if I had one, I would sell in a second and buy a nice tall stack of bullion SAEs.

Hope that helps! They're nice coins, and a pretty nice way to buy bullion, although they are a bit more pricey than silver rounds or some other 1 oz coins (Canadian Maples or old Mexican Onzas come to mind).
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Sorry. I hadn't logged out.

Please disregard.

Gary's post follows.
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Thanks for the information.

I was curious as to whether or not I had the "burnished" version.

I was fortunate enough to buy two of the three-coin sets -- one for me and one for my wife.

They are beautiful coins!

One last question. When did the mint begin selling the Unc. ASE's? I thought they were only sold to big dealers.
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I BELIEVE, but am not 100% sure (and they may have recently changed it), that the mint only sells the uncirculated coins to dealers, not directly to buyers. But the mint does sell proofs directly through the website, and I believe also sells the "burnished" SAEs directly through the website, which is why I am thinking that's what you have.
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I thought the mint just started selling the UNC versions this year or last year, and previously they only sold them to dealers. There are quite a few posts on this with good info. Let me dig a little.

This may help

https://goccf.com/t/15085

I'll look for more.
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The US Mint produces three different Silver Eagles-

1)American Eagle Silver Proof Coin with a "W" mintmark available directly from the Mint for $29.95
2)American Eagle Silver Uncirculated Coin struck on a burnished planchet with a "W" mintmark available directly from the Mint for $21.95
3)American Eagle Silver Bullion Coin minted at West Point without a mintmark only available from bullion dealers or secondary retailers for ~$2-3 over spot

#2 was first minted last year and included in the 20th Anniversary Silver Eagle three coin set and the gold and silver two coin set. The mintage for those two sets was a total of 270,000. Also, another 200,000 were individually minted and sold for $19.95. The 2006W is now by far the key of the nonproof Silver Eagles selling for $100-120.
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Answers

1. Is the only difference in the finish?

Yes and no. Yes, the finish is a different but the main difference is how they are sold. ASE w/o W mintmark is sold in rolls of 20 in Green Monster Boxes of 500 coins. ASE with W mint mark is sold individually by the mint. If you place both of them side by side it often hard to tell them apart by finish alone. They look very similar.

2. How long has this type of ASE been produced?

2006 was the first year of the unc w mint mark ASE.

3. Although I don't buy coins as investment items, I would be interested to know if this type of ASE will be more, or less, valuable than others?

While nobody can predict the future, the unc W mintmark issues should grow in value more rapidly than the normal bullion issue. The reason for this is mintage. The bullion issue is stuck by the millions. The lowest mintage is 1996 at a little over 3 million. The unc W issues are sold packaged one by one and that slows down the process. The 2006 issue was 479,000. The 2007 issue, while minted to demand, I'm guessing will end up being 900,000 more or less.

Given the low mintages and the fact that most ASE collectors think that the unc W issues are part of the same bullion series (which they are not) they want them to complete their ASE sets. Actually the unc W issues are a seperate new series to run along side of the normal bullion issue.

4. Does the West Point mintmark make this coin special, or do all the 2007 versions have the "W" mintmark.

Yes, the W mintmark makes the coin very special and gives it all of it's perceived value as noted before the normal 2007 bullion do not have a mint mark.

Also..it's American Silver eagle ( ASE)

Cheers.
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It's funny - on the other forum I frequent, they're almost always called "SAEs" (and Gold Eagles are called GAEs). I guess they are known as both.
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Sorry again.

Must be having computer problems.

I was sure I had logged out.
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Sincere thanks to everyone.

My questions were completely answered, and I appreciate the help!!
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I got my ASE as well with the big W on it I heard that they are going to go into the big money soon but not positive just what I heard. but I got mine just to complete the set.
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I don't know whether the regular ASE mintage and new BU-W ASE mintage are really comparable in term of collector presure. For the new BU-W ASE, I think at least 90% are hold for collector market. For the regular ASE, I think (I could be totally wrong), most of them are hold for the investor market. So, regular ASE mintage need to be much higher to feel the presure from collectors while a bit higher mintage on new BU-W will saturate the market quick.
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"It's funny - on the other forum I frequent, they're almost always called "SAEs" (and Gold Eagles are called GAEs). I guess they are known as both."

I guess if you go by what the mint calls them then they are AES American Eagle Silver (proof, unc) and AEG American Eagle Gold (proof, unc.)
I guess it's the case of to-May-to; to-mah-to lol.
What other forums do you frequent? I haven't found that many out there.
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