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halfhunter - - may I suggest you put these up one at a time with larger pics. My starting point with attribution is normally the position of the stars in reference to the denticles. The level of wear takes that out of the equation. Larger pics would enable us to better see the other variations.
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Ok, thanks for that tip. I am going to try again, Lets see if this is good enough.   |
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Any Takers with the bigger pictures?
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Let me see what I can do with 'em.
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Forgive the delay; I'm Moderating another forum as well as this one and skipping around a couple others where I'm a regular. I tentatively have the 1830 as O-110. The lack of obverse milling makes that important pickup impossible; one has to try and attribute these basically on reverse features and vague relationships within the date.
The 1825 is likely impossible to attribute given the level of remaining detail. The 1807 is a wild guess on my part, but I'm throwing out O-105 at it. I won't try the 1831 without larger images; give it your best to make them square and parallel to the coin as shooting on an angle distorts the relationships between devices, which are how one attributes these things.
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Thanks Super Dave, I was thinking 0-110 on the 1830, but Iv never tried to attribute one of these before, and only compared it against a few others I could eliminate. If you want to delete the pictures from the original thread, I can add some better pictures of the other 3 tommorrow.
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Better pictures of the 1831. 0-108?   |
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I agree with the 1807 as an O-105.
I am having a harder time seeing the 1830 as an O-110 though. The thing that bothers me is the last A of America and the relation to the arrowheads as well as the arrowheads themselves. The A in this example appears to have the right edge almost parallel with the upper edge of the arrowhead and the A is further down and closer to the arrowhead. The arrowhead heads also show clear separation here while Reverse E shows them being very close, and with the bottom two arrowheads almost touching, if not actually so. I don't think wear could cause as much separation as what we see in this example.
Taking my guess at the 1830, I kind of like O-115. I think the reverse fits better (although I can't really tell if the E D relationship is correct and I can't see the stripes extending.) I also like the obverse because of the low 3, higher 180, however it doesn't look like you can see the die defects and the example in Overton doesn't have the stars drawn to the edge.
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I agree with the 1807 as an O-105.
I am having a harder time seeing the 1830 as an O-110 though. The thing that bothers me is the last A of America and the relation to the arrowheads as well as the arrowheads themselves. The A in this example appears to have the right edge almost parallel with the upper edge of the arrowhead and the A is further down and closer to the arrowhead. The arrowhead heads also show clear separation here while Reverse E shows them being very close, and with the bottom two arrowheads almost touching, if not actually so. I don't think wear could cause as much separation as what we see in this example.
Taking my guess at the 1830, I kind of like O-115. I think the reverse fits better (although I can't really tell if the E D relationship is correct and I can't see the stripes extending.) I also like the obverse because of the low 3, higher 180, however it doesn't look like you can see the die defects and the example in Overton doesn't have the stars drawn to the edge. Oh yeah, you just unsold me on 110 with the top arrow head point in relation to the last a of america, my coin it appears the arrowhead ends much farther towards the top of the A. Is it possible this 1830 is the same obverse as 110, and the same reverse as 115, does that one exist? I like the diagnostics of that. I think your right the stars on the obverse 115 dont match this coin. Im going with what I can find on google for these  Looks like 2 agree on the 1807, thats good so far. |
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Well after looking at 0-115's several times throughout the day
and looking at the 1830, I am more leaning towards the 0-115.
i think the arrowheads do match up better after looking at the coin through the loupe. I found some 0-115 with the obverse stars the same as well.
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ALL right,
we got 1807 o-105
1830 0-115?
Anyone want to go on the 1831?
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